It's funny how on a pickup board, getting people to answer a direct question is like trying to sweep water into a pile...
It's the same question the OP asked and didn't get an aswer to.
Personally, it has happened on strange occasions where I was gaming an ex who had internal conflicts and I was having to push my game HARD the whole time. Also I have tried just waiting until they ask for my pants to come off or go for it, and that is not very reliable at all, even when I know they want sex. But the question isnt an issue of my personal-game/development. I just want to know
where on the model they would put that missing step.
Also, I would disagree that the ramp isn't a crutch. Thats
exactly what it is, a crutch to hold your hand until you have more natural intuitions about when to do everything. Thats why people are not using it once they have more experience as everyone keeps wanting to point out again and again. (please dont threadjack with your contrary opinions about this until the single question gets answered)
And yes I know what you are saying: get her turned on first... of course.
But do you see how silly it is to map a model of escalation to this level detail, and leave out something as important as when to take the dick out (PYCO)?
Let me restate the question again since you didn't answer it. I don't mean to be rude. But if you reply, please answer the single question (call it a theoretical one). Giving me your impressions of how I come across or some other answer along the lines of "just get her turned on first", or saying some point in time relative to something not certain on the ramp are all just ways of dancing around the actual question.
Hope I dont sound like an ass, I just get frustrated with irrelevant answers to direct questions. I don't mind discussion or hearing peoples 2 cents about the side stuff, but I'm trying to shine a laser beam on this ONE thing, if you get me.
The question is, within the framework of the DiCarlo Ladder espoused by this company and this forum, for the sake of making it a more complete model of sexual escalation, and without ditching that structured framework to answer, where would/could the PYCO step be inserted into the ramp?