How to escalate on day 2?

[MeHigher]

Hello
Well my sticking point for long has been properly escalating with Kino on dates/day 2's.Yes i have read about the escalation ladder though if u can give an example it would be great.

Nowadays i easily get day 2's.On some occasions the girl compliments me that I am facinating and amazing.. a great dancer etc.(that means she is attracted to me..right?),yet i screw up.how do i show my interest(SOI) here?

How do u start the Kino on day 2s? How to blend it so that it feels natural ? how do u get the K close and how do u know its time to kiss? how do u push pull if she doesnt accept ur kino? If logistics are not right ( i stay with parents) then how much time do u need for the F close and how do u go by escalating for that.

If u could give us an example it would be great.


cheers
MeHigher

[raki™]

Originally Posted by MeHigher

Hello
Well my sticking point for long has been properly escalating with Kino on dates/day 2's.Yes i have read about the escalation ladder though if u can give an example it would be great.

..the Field Reports section are chock full of examples. If the report didn't specifically include the escalation part, then maybe you can ask how the poster escalated. He would probably obliged (I would). But I really can't answer the question "How do you escalate?". I wouldn't know where to start, kinda broad.

How do u start the Kino on day 2s?

..just like how you start Kino on day 1, it's no different.

How to blend it so that it feels natural ?

...follow the Escalation Ladder. Do it many times until it feels natural to you. The Ladder is there so it LOOKS and feels 'natural' to HER (I think.. ).

[Redux]

Raki, gave a good answer.

I have a quick question. Today I'm getting a Day2 but my logistics are fucked up (no car and moving to a new house, she lives with parents). Should I escalate to *close if I can't manage logistics or wait for day3?

[MeHigher]

Hey thanks.. though i wanted to ask.. how do u push push with kino if she rejects ur Kino?

[Redux]

MeHigher, you probably didn't followed the DEL right?

PS: I decided to postpone for full escalation in a day3, I created the precedence for it.

[Kicks]

Originally Posted by MeHigher

Hello
How do u start the Kino on day 2s? How to blend it so that it feels natural ?

hi there mehigher!
even tho this answer myt be pretty short coz im in a workplace ryt now, lemme share still ;p
well here's my take:

if you had a really fun vibe on day one (i'll assume that u do based on ur writing) then basic stuff: greet her like you are excited for the next stuff that you'll be doing together with her.
Shaking hands on the intial kino would be ok, but this is sooo basic. i suggest:

-surprise her from behind, bump her with yer butt (mildly)
-pull her hair from behind mildly, then tell her "its fake. it moved. tell me your balding. (shake head, like ur frustrated) but its ok, ima still go with you as long as your fun" then shake your head, then sly smile. then start with your game plan.
-from behind, knee the back of her knee (mildly, carefull if shes in stillettos), in here she's gonna bend a bit, surprised. hold the both of her shoulders as if your assuming shes gonna fall and your gonna catch her, sly smile ryt away say "you're hungry, lets eat!" . its a quick stuff.

for now all of these are just from behind. just remember to have a fun vibe on the above sample suggestions.

hope this helps.
kicks

[MeHigher]

thanks kicks..
well not many people write details about the comfort game in thier FRs.. and comfort game is the real game.. so these are some real good pointers u have given here.. any members who can post thier FRs where they used Dicarlos escalation ladder to great use can post here..

[jazzyjonty]

don't rush bud, it's not a race. Look into her eyes more. Do the JFK TV rapport thing with your eyes more.

[Takashi]

Just had a day 2 last night, here's how it went down (using the good ol' VAC model):

Compliance - I picked the activitiy (drinking), and picked a nice bar that she hadn't been to before.

Value - Display knowledge of nice places to go, good drinks. Got her to talk about her friends/herself, analyzed and told her some of my stories.

Attainability - Relating myself to her opinions on relationships, personalities, etc.

Humour was limited because she wasn't much of a joker. But just gotta push different buttons to see what makes her tic - ie. I commented on the bar music and she immediately took our her ipod to give me something to listen to. We shared headphones and I moved in closer, leading to more kino later on.

It was only a short night out, and in the end though I walked her back (her place was within walking distance from the bar) I wasn't persistent enough to go up to her place. Also it was a weeknight and I'd rather just wait to meet with her again on a weekend... but definitely succeeded in developing attraction, and got an SMS from her shortly after sending her off.