Would like to hear from Vin

[KingKong]

I met this girl just now, I tried to fuck her. It went smooth until Nr.14. She didn't let rubb her pussy from the rear, I could feel the wet pussy, but she was determined not to let me fuck her. I asked why she wouldn't, she said that she let some guys in too fast. I am not sure about this. THe main reason might be that I am of higher value (she want to keep me around) than the other guys she fucked. So I will have to wait for her approval, one week, till next time we meet, deadline a week of time from now. If she doesn't give it up, I'll erase her fast. Vin could you give me the remedy? howcome she rejected me rubbing her vagina the rear way?

thanx!

[Mr. Incredible]

I'm not Vin, I don't even play him on TV. However, if you get resistance at one point, back off one step and try something different... more ass rubbing, incidental pussy touching, dirty talk (maybe). Rub her pussy through her clothes while sucking her breasts (there's a direct link between nipples and clit). Then try fingering again. Vin writes that you need to be like a kung fu master, always coming at her from an unexpected direction.

[KingKong]

I tried all that above, really! Nothing of it helped at all. She was ok me touching her pussy with her pants on, but I couldn't get my hand in or take em off, or make her take em off.

[Vin DiCarlo]

Ok there's two issues here:

First I'll talk about the technical aspect of this.

If you got to her pussy from behind, and she rejected that, then basically you just have to persist. Like Incredible said, move away, just touch her ass for a while, then try again. Persistence is key.

Distraction is also a very powerful thing. Something you can do is have your hand on her ass, massaging it, meanwhile kissing her a little bit.

Then you suddenly start making out with her very intensely, and at the same time, start fingering her.

There's a rhythm to the ramp, and it goes back and forth between just making each other feel good, and getting into the intense heat of passion. When you encounter resistance at a certain point, what you can do is relax and stay at whatever point you are at, and then all of a sudden get into the heat of the moment as if you are losing control and move up to the next step.

The second thing I noticed about your post is:

"I asked why she wouldn't, she said that she let some guys in too fast. I am not sure about this."

I wouldn't ask about stuff like that - because first, it's going to reinforce the rejection in her mind, and secondly she's going to give you conscious backwards rationalization bullshit as opposed to real information.

And the real reason why she didn't let you is because you didn't emotionally *engage* her to the point where she was excited enough to let her body take over...

But of course she won't tell you that, she'll just come up with a "logical" reason that seems to make sense, and protects her ego.

It's ok though, men do it too.

"The main reason might be that I am of higher value (she want to keep me around) than the other guys she fucked."

This is a myth perpetuated by women who tell guys that to make them feel good about waiting for sex.

It's in a woman's best interest to wait as long as possible to have sex, because then they will end up with more power in the relationship that results.

And they will tell guys this type of thing to make them feel better, meanwhile the woman is getting more control and power.

The more attracted, the higher your perceived value, the quicker she will have sex with you, and the more power you will have in where the relationship goes. There's no exception to this.

I hope this wasn't too harsh, but when you specifically ask for my advice, I don't hold back...

Vin

[razor-ramon]

Like I’ve said before I’m new to the community and don’t even consider myself a PUA but I’m going to tell you a story that changed my perception of women and dating in general:

I met this girl who looking back was not that pretty she just had a nice Rack, white skin and dyed blonde hair (I’m crazy about blondes even when they’re not natural). So we hit off started to make out and then she stops and tells me -"Listen I really want to have sex with you but you have such an amazing boyfriend material cant we just take things slower?"
Being the dumbass I was back then I agreed and then started to date her bringing her flowers, writing her songs and all that crap women are supposed to like and then two weeks later my best friend told me he had fuck her in every way possible. It was on a Party I left early and he was resting on a couch nearly wasted when she comes and tells him -"hey do you like my new chap stick?" and planted him a kiss before he could answer of course he wouldn’t refuse the offer of free pussy in front of him so he went ahead and take her after sex she told him how he shouldn’t tell me because it would hurt my feelings and shit like that but he went on and tell me and I didn’t hold it against him because I would have done the same thing.
Then I realized women are players just as men are and in this game you’re either a king or a pawn, now I’m not saying your case is the same as mine
I’m just saying even if she meant it women most of the time doesn’t know what they want so you should focus less on what they want and more on what you want.

[KingKong]

It wasn't harsh at all, I take in every word. I think you're right. As time went my value sunk, she saw me as boyfriend material and I didn't engage her emotionally. This is gold man, I will try all over again and succeed laying her ass friday. Thanks Vin

KingKong