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Old 04-13-2008, 08:48 PM
diablo diablo is offline
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Arrow Mystery Method Model...

the mystery method...

i got a hold of the model recently...
snagged "mindofmystery" from a friend...
to be sure i REAAALLY understood that stuff...

i love MM because it's structured.
it's almost nerdy in a way. lol
and i'm a male who likes logical stuff...
i mean, my favorite subject is statistics... yea, wtf? haha

so after watching those DVD's (FUCKING INCREDIBLE, by the way)
i go out.
with a group of friends...
7-8 guys, 1 girl...
we get to our destination...
i scan the room...

i've got different infield vision now, thank you mystery.

notice a 2 set, a 3 set, ... ugly..
then i notice about an 8 set, sitting at a corner booth. all girls
and i know one of the girls in it.
she has a boyfriend. we'll call her "S"

last time i saw S was about 2 years ago...
she is younger than i...
and her body is that of a greek goddess

anyway
after learning, studying, and applying the model..
i'll break things down
in that manner.

althought this wasn't a cold approach..
it felt like one, because i haven't seen her IN 2 YEARS.


A1
opener: "omg... <making eye contact> i could have sworn.... you disappeared <smiling>"

{the "..." are literally 1-2 second pauses in my voice... if you listen to mystery talk.. he does this, he creates a rhythm with his voice... i have since adopted my own rhythm.}

after my opener, she instructs her friends to get up so she can stand to hug me
she seems excited
perfect.


A2
disqualifiers: she hugs me, i say, "omg... your skin... is so soft.... just like toilet paper <pushing her away, while smiling... what's known as a calibrated neg>"

this stage is all about female to male interest
we, as males, have to set this up.
create some tension and demonstrate higher value.
which can be done in a VARIETY of ways.

i say ,"well introduce me to your friends (all girls)... it's the polite thing."
she introduces me.
i make small jokes to her friends... they laugh
this is a dhv, it demonstrates that i'm social

she says, "you just came over here, because you wanted to meet my friends."
me: "nono, i'm sure they wanted... to meet me too <grin>"

she giggles... perfect... now i can get away with more kino.
i can slide under the radar if she's giggling.
so i put my arm around her, say something to her friend.. then push her off.
i don't want to leave any tension lingering.
so i must create it, then get rid of it. create it, get rid of it.

"you should come meet my friends too"
she agrees...
good compliance.
i just walk off after saying this.
she follows.
great compliance.

this is known as a "move" in the mysterymethodmodel...


A3
this is when i begin to reward her for the IOI's and compliance she has given.
and i also communicate my interest.
because at some point she needs to know that i like her for more than her beauty.

i DHV all my friends by giving them accomplishment introductions to S

SOI: "you know... when i first met you.... years ago.... i wasn't so sure about you...... but now..... i'd say you're alright"

of course this gets her going...
"when you first met me you WEREN'T SURE ABOUT ME?"

Bait, Hook, Reel, Release
this is the common qualification loop.
remember...i gotta set up EVERYTHING to make this courtship work.
so this model...
for example -

i throw out the bait
Me: "yea... i wasn't sure about you... but now... i know you're pretty cool... but.... can ya cook?"
she takes the bait.... and this is the Hook
S: "yea... i'm a damn good pankake cook!"
then i reel her in with an IOI... and release the tension at the end of the sentence
me: "haha... that's awesome, i fuckin love pankakes... you know... you can actually put the... syrup.... in the batter.... and it makes the pankakes all creamy tasting..... too bad ANYONE can cook pankakes"
S: hahahaha <punches me>

next i will move her to a comfort location inside the club
my roomate suggests we all go out back for a smoke.
how do i get them back there?
"we're going outside... comeon"
she follows, and grabs a friend.

this is another "move"


C1
now that i've got her in a comfort location (outside, it's quieter than inside the club)
it's time to just vibe with her...
create wide and deep rapport

now...
if she's not talkative (which this girl was not much of a talker... shygirl)
i begin multiple threading.
and holy shit this is fucking $MONEY$

the technique
the basic multiple thread technique is to introduce a series of threads
that flow in a manner,
such that they can cut themselves off.
for example-
"last time i was here... THE WEIRDEST shit happened.... we we're upstairs and..... speakin of weird, you know.... they found a new species..... yea...... i saw it on this show...... and that show.... also talked about people with blue eyes.... and the importance they possess in our culture"

the Structure:
i introduced 3 topics that all cut themselves off.
1. the weird thing that happened last time i was here
2. the new species
3. people with blue eyes

after i introduce this stuff...
i just kick back.
and i KNOW she will pickup on one of those things...

and this girl, S...
wanted to know what the weird thing that happened in this club was...
well... i don't give that thread to her.
i give her the animal thread.
then the blue eyes thread...
but no matter what i talk about
SHE KEEPS ASKING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED LAST TIME I WAS HERE...

if you guys can't see the COMPLETE AWESOMENESS about multiple threading,
just stop reading right now... you're much cooler than me. lol

anyway...
we begin talking about going somewhere else.


C2

in this phase... i either create a time bridge (setting up plans to do something at a later date
or
i bounce the girl.. and her friends if neccessary.
we bounce.
to a stripclub...
my wing, me, and the 2 girls.
we drink and drink...
she's touching my leg while talking to my roomate..
i think.. "that's what *i* do... she must be a player"

i say something to the like of,
"oh you've never... seen our videos? i'll have to show you when we leave here"
she says "yea."

so..
she just confirmed to me, and to herself...
that she will be coming over later...
awesome.
we leave the strip club, and bounce to my pad.

C3

C3... is the bounce to a seduction location.
my house haha... i love this game
we smoke, drink ...
i'm just waiting for the "move" to S1....
she says, "i'm tired"
i say, "great lets go lay down."


S1
got her in my room...
we start kissing immediately.
this is the first time we've kissed
i take her dress off

S2
overcome last minute resistance..
if there is any.
well... there was...
apparently this chick is a virgin
i hear my roomate fucking her friend in his room...
damnit.
i'm stuck with virgin.
she wont fuck.
i'ts 6 am...
i keep feeling her ass...
she's grinding on my dick
she's on top of me...
i'm getting tired....
she says she has to leave....
i agree....
she and her friend leave...
i get her number
timebridge: "i'll come see ya at work tomorrow... but promise.... you'll hooke me up with a free iced tea?"
she agrees
timebridge is complete

i pass out.


S3
have sex with the girl

didn't get this far,
i'll let you guys know when/if i do



debrief

i almost got to the final stage of the model.
but didn't complete it.
but i also see this as a win.
i bounced her and her friend twice
and had her back in my bed.
although sex did not occur...
the time bridge i set up will buy me some more time with this girl

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Old 04-14-2008, 12:09 AM
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WTF Diablo? Did you really need to get better at pickup?

I mean, jeez, I've read your posts... are there any women left in your vicinity you haven't been with? And now you're adding hypnotic pacing and open loops to your repertoire?

Seriously, it just emphasizes to me there is always more to learn and further to develop... sigh... and as well, thanks for being a good example of what's possible
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:35 PM
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I wish sometimes i had more logic & analytical skills, cuz frankly the MM method confuses the hell outta me. It goes so against my natural lust & feeling of integrity...
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Old 04-15-2008, 05:16 PM
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WTF Diablo? Did you really need to get better at pickup?

I mean, jeez, I've read your posts... are there any women left in your vicinity you haven't been with? And now you're adding hypnotic pacing and open loops to your repertoire?

Seriously, it just emphasizes to me there is always more to learn and further to develop... sigh... and as well, thanks for being a good example of what's possible
haha.. you make me smile Canjay.

hypnotic pacing and open loops eh?
sounds better than multiple threading, haha.

multiple threading is something i just learned...
although simple as hell...
has GREATLY increased my game...
good god.. being able to rely on my multiple thread routines to
VERY CONSISTENTLY elicit responses from women that get them jumping out of their chairs (literally)
it's like my new Pythagorean theorem
Asquared + Bsquared = Csquared
i can rely on THAT SHIT....

i have so many stories...
and each day ...
i take the time to figure out a smooth way to intgrate 3 of them into the multiple thread syntax structure...
so when i get to comfort... i'm basically unstoppable.
i recommend EVERYONE do this... it's fuckin priceless...
i know a girl will jump on one of my topics... but i don't give it to her immediately.





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I wish sometimes i had more logic & analytical skills, cuz frankly the MM method confuses the hell outta me. It goes so against my natural lust & feeling of integrity..
whooooa... gabler....
what!?!?!?
you wish you had more logic and analytical skills....
YOUR A MAN... THOSE SKILLS ARE HARDWIRED.

how does it go against your natural lust and feeling of integrity?
it is a step-by-step structure of the courtship phases...
what's confusing about that?
it's actually fairly simple...
lets talk about this... because the MM mixed with Vin's teachings can SKYROCKET your game
like you've never dreamed man....
i promise
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:29 AM
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I'm happy you're happy, it's a kick ass post.

Couple more technical questions.

With the multi threading do you start a thread, switch to another, switch to a third and never go back and finish the previous ones?

Or do you start thread 1, then start 2, then start and finish 3, then finish 2, then finish 1?

And are you supposed to pace your pauses when speaking to match the breathing of who you're chatting to?

I was a little quick to lump what you described in with techniques I've learned and I could be wrong, so as usual I'm curious
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Old 04-17-2008, 01:01 AM
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Couple more technical questions.

With the multi threading do you start a thread, switch to another, switch to a third and never go back and finish the previous ones?

Or do you start thread 1, then start 2, then start and finish 3, then finish 2, then finish 1?

the way you say the threads
will make her want to know more about each one.

the way this works goes like this:
imagine you and i are talking...
i say, "man... the last time i was here... the WEIRDEST SHIT happened."
and i look you right in the eyes.
like i'm expecting you to say, "what kind of WEIRD SHIT?"
then... just as i see your facial expressions change to that curious look
before you get any words out,
i say, "and SPEAKING OF WEIRD... have you heard... about that NEW animal they found?"
you'll probably say, "no." or get a 'WTF' surprised look on your face.
then i'd come in with, "yea... it was on this show... and on the show.... they talked about how people with blue eyes... are more adapted to the world, than people with brown eyes."

did you put yourself in that situation?
it flowed naturally...
if you were a girl... you'd be thinkin,
"this guy is FULL OF THINGS to talk about."
"i feel like i can talk to him about ANYTHING."

so if the girl says, "wait, what was the weird thing that happened last time u were here??"
i'd probably say, "wait your turn"
and i wouldn't give her that thread she wanted, i'd give her a different one instead.
with a teasing look on my face...

by doing this
i'm allowing a lot of time for more threads to manifest,
creating that feeling of wide rapport
i'm being playful
but i can still go back to the multiple threads i brought up
becuase i haven't finished talkin about all of them yet!


the great thing about multiple threading is that you have something to go back to.
you can even leave a multiple thread completely untalked about,
get her number
and when you call her
you bring up the multiple thread that you left out immediately
for example, "hey, that weird new animal.... it's called a PANGOLIAN... yea,.. looks like a mixture between... a squirrel and a... fuckin armadillo or something.... anyway blablabla"



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And are you supposed to pace your pauses when speaking to match the breathing of who you're chatting to?

I was a little quick to lump what you described in with techniques I've learned and I could be wrong, so as usual I'm curious
i don't ever consciously try to pace breathing
unless it's really quiet i guess.
and i can hear her breathing
and she can hear me breathing.
but that only happens in my room
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Old 04-20-2008, 02:53 AM
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Thanks for the clarification. I appreciate the example.

Understand the differences between "multi-threading" and what I've learned as "open loops"

And that's a good joke, pacing breathing when alone.
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