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Old 09-14-2007, 08:37 AM
Everest Everest is offline
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Lightbulb FR: # closed my 1rst bartender and my first experience with a HB10+, plus more!

Hey guys, I have to say thanks to Heartwork real quick for turning me on to Vins stuff. I feel way more confident using structured natural game and the concept of windows of opportunity is brilliant, i really got to see how this works on three seperate sets .

Tonight my friend and I went out to celebrate his new job and we go out to this little cool Bar where I start having a conversation with HB9 bartender. Nothing fancy, no routines or gimmicks just really interesting conversation, definitely felt like I was exuding warm dominance. (not much kino though hard to escalate a bartender.) I find that she is new in town and basically got her talking about herself and creating lots of open loops. My friend who is the worst wing in the world because everything is a competition tries to cut in and dominate the conversation. (He is really pissing me off) I told her I really need her to play on my kickball team and she was totally down for that. I said, great give me your number and I will call you. Sent her a text back so she would have my number. We leave shortly after and hit the next club.

As we are standing in line to get in to the next place my idiot friend gets opened by hb10+ (party girl)

HB: Hey I really like your shirt.

Friend: ummmmmm..... thanks.......... walks inside.

Me:....WTF is the matter with you?

I try to explain the concept of windows of opportunity.... his eyes give me that whatever look like I was insane. So we are standing around talking and HB10 comes back into the club and ends up standing right next to us. I tell my friend to open her... he does but is lame. I lock eyes with her and she marches right past my friend and introduces herself to me.

HB: Hi I am Dallas, whats your name ( shakes my hand, no biggie but I needed to tease her some how)

Me: Hey Dallas, I'm Erik... What brings you out tonight? (really light incidental kino)

HB: I am always out. (Now He is where I think I need to bust on her or neg her or do something different.)

Now my friend is leaning in try to listen and basically interrupting me(he is fired I swear he thinks he is helping but he is killing my state). my mind is doing that thing it does when I am way outside my comfort zone which is to revert to low energy afc chit chat. I tried to start a couple of threads but it was so loud that I had a hard time hearing and I made her repeat herself several times and I missed what she said and basically looked like a retard and she ejected nicely. Giant window missed but I learned some great lessons tonight.


On the way home I open a two set of sisters who are 8's. One is on the phone and one is on the phone. They are walking there dog.

Me: from about 30 feet away, He's not cooperating!

HB8: He never listens:

Me: He's a cutie, is he friendly?

HB8: Yeah, ( I play with her dog and make small dog talk ) She asks what we are up to and where we went.

Me: where didn't we go, We hit and run just about everyplace tonight. She tells me she is from Chicago but is originally from Denver but things have changed and she asked... nice little conversation ensues until major drama erupts on the phone and pretty much kills that interaction.



Lesson 1. I can pull a 9... Seriously I used to weigh almost 400 pounds I have lost over 180 pounds... So needless to say I have been struggling with some serious AA and inner game bullshit. So # closing a bartender was a huge success for me. I though I would call her Sunday or Monday and set up a day 2 for Thursday so I can bring her to play on my kickball team which I would think would be a good way to show that I am fun and bring her into my world. Unfortunately I think she has to work later that night. Any ideas?

Lesson 2. Eye contact is the shizznat... I made it a point to make eye contact with everyone tonight and It works like magic. The 10 opened me up just because I locked eyes and didn't look away. I may have not taken it anywhere but It again drove home the point that I can talk to the hottest women in the bar, that they are friendly (que little hermuncules( greek for little fucking guy in my head that always is telling me otherwise.))

Lesson 3. My AA is getting much better, It takes time and practice and there is nothing else for it. Absolutely could not approach unless intoxicated; to sober and completely terrified, to not some much terrified as reluctant and physically paralyzed; to starting to approach; to actually approaching. I felt really good for opening that set on the way home as they were walking the other way and I was able to stop them and have a 10 minute conversation. I really like the saying fail forward fast.. I used to not even try!



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Old 09-14-2007, 08:43 AM
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ugh.... forgive my grammatical errors. its late
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Old 09-14-2007, 05:53 PM
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Hey Everest, nice post... eye contact is something I'm working on myself. Have to get off the strong eye contact equals staring equals being rude, I am a very well-mannered guy.

It's Homunculus, you can remember this as it starts almost the same as "homo", so now you know where he's coming from...

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Old 09-16-2007, 09:43 PM
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Hey Everest, nice post... eye contact is something I'm working on myself. Have to get off the strong eye contact equals staring equals being rude, I am a very well-mannered guy.

It's Homunculus, you can remember this as it starts almost the same as "homo", so now you know where he's coming from...
Working on eye contacts myself. Still need my alcohol to get the daring up.
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Old 09-16-2007, 09:43 PM
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Default eye contact to make her approach?

Speaking of having/using strong eye contact, and having her approach you off of it, has anyone heard of or had any experience with this guy, Cory Skyy?
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Old 10-24-2007, 02:56 AM
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Default Eye contact

Try staring at her forehead about a half inch above her eye brows. She won't know the difference. Then, if you are close, only use your right eye (don't close the other). It makes it easier. In no time, you won't have a problem

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