The social and the sexual mission

[BigCojones]

There is a couple of flaws in this post, but decided to repost so you guys can find some value...

As a sidenote, I tried really hard not to over analyze this or look at this from many aspects of game and tried to keep it simple, hope I did a good job.

Onwards...

There is most certainly social attraction (value) AND sexual attracion (value). Nobody has put enough emphasis on this CLEAR DISTINCTION. Most communtiy guys mix these two up, but there is a HUGE difference.

There are also other attractions IRL, but the 3 MAIN ones are the two aforementioned and material attraction (value). IOW, the provider stuff, which I won't get into, because that is not what this site is for. But the main point is that PEOPLE MIX ATTRACTIONS BETWEEN ONE ANOTHER ALTOUGH THERE IS NO RELATION.

I've been a really happy, confident, HSE person for the past month or so. I have tried to fulfill my mission to the fullest and it has felt great. My mission has been along the same guidelines as 60 put out there some time ago. IOW, "give people positive emotions". I have been kick ass socially, but I haven't been all that sexual with women. I have felt no real desire for sex with women either, but have been VERY HAPPY eitherway. Been happy just coming home and jerking off. Infact, women have started making VERY CLEAR sexual suggestions for me at somepoint in the interaction, but I have not followed them, because it has not been my mission and now I see that the women have blown themselves out from me SEXUALLY, NOT SOCIALLY. They still loved me. The only sexual stuff I have been doing with women was coming clearly from the mindstate of "She wants me sexually". Whenever THAT belief has been present in me has there been sexual vibes with the women.

So I have realised, I need a new life goal, to be a SEXUAL man and give women MORE value. The one I have been following has made me an extremely SOCIAL guy, but no where close sexual. So now I have TWO core missions.

The Sexual Mission: Give sexual pleasure to women who deserve it.
(This is the prime mission for me inorder for me to be a SEXUAL man)

The Social Mission: Give good emotions to people who deserve them.
(If this was my main mission, I would have no time to fulfill my other mission. )

ELABORATIONS:

1. The (New) Sexual Mission

If this is your only mission in life, you will be happy if you get to fulfill it. Infact, this is the ONLY mission you need to have to have sex with women. The core of all this comes from the belief that "Women (You, That woman you have in your AR) want sex from me". This is the subcommunication you need to communicate in order to have ANY sexual vibes with women. This is (sexual) state, banter, innuedo, flirting, kino, dominance etc. All the sexual vibes you get with women is coming from your strong communication of this belief.

2. The Social Mission

You all already now what this is so I don't have to give you much detail. The core of this comes from the belief that "They (He/She whatever...) like the positive feelings I am giving them". This is the (non sexual) C&F, complements, negs, kino, leading etc. BUT you must have this mission inorder to get to fulfill the other mission with MAXIMUM EFFECTIVNESS. IE, you need to give your "targets" friends positive emotions so that they will let her have sex with you SO YOU CAN FULFILL YOUR SEXUAL MISSION. They get a bonus if they are bitches and if they are deserving for this mission then you get to fulfill this at the same time. This is the reason why GWM» is said to be only for lonewolves. It is operating ONLY from the sexual mission. In essence if you communicated that they ALL wanted sex from you, they would ALL want sex from you and propably organize a x-some.

Very important! You must be in peace with the fact that there is a negative bitch in the social circle inorder to give the other ones good emotions. (JWS )

3. Those Who Deserve

This phrase is for the purpose that you will have STANDARDS.

Socially deserving people are people that can give ME positive emotions in return, for me loving them. IE, Are humorous, positive, exciting etc.

Sexually deserving women are women that can give ME sexual pleasure in return, for me giving it to them. IE, HB's, Good blowjobs, x-somes etc.

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Materially/Financially deserving people are people who can give me financial stuff, for my compliance, my material stuff, my sex ( LOL). Well you get the picture of this shit.

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In essence your relationshops should look like this...

Your dream girl = Can give you good emotions and sexual pleasure (Also compliance and other stuff too. Maybe money. ).

A person that can give you good emotions but no sexual pleasure. IE, The funny fat chick, A dude etc. = A friend.

A chick that can give you sexual pleasure, but no good emotions. IE, A Freak, A dumb hot blonde etc. = Only sexual relationship. (Fuck "buddy").

You get the deal here...

It's very important that you categorize these people quite quickly. Otherwise your head will be all over the place. The persons status can be changed if he/she shows some value in other attractions or stops showing value in a specific attraction. It is also up to you to see how much you value certain traits, but do not give that trait POWER OVER YOU.

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Also I want to add that attraction doesn't require for the person to "like" the other person, this is interrelated to that persons SE. The level needed for liking one is directly related to that persons level of self esteem in that area (attraction). The higher a persons SE is, the more he/she requires to like that other person. No SE = No likey required.

The more likey = The more RAPPORT present.
Rapport = You feel good about it and the other person feels good about it.

You must make a strong distinction between emotional rapport and sexual rapport. They are not related, even though 99.99999999999% of people get them confused, EVEN WOMEN.

You do not need emotional rapport in order to have sexual rapport! Ever heard a chick say to you "Do NOT TELL ANYONE I had sex with you!"? It means you were HV for her sexually, NOT SOCIALLY. She has them confused herself (and relating to other people). IOW, She felt HSE about having sex with you, but LSE about other people knowing about it, because she believes that they mix these two also (They would have believed that she liked you, because she had sex with you). THIS IS SECRET SOCIETY. Ever had sex with a chick who hated you?? ...I rest my case.

You must screen all of this stuff for a LTR. Is she socially HSE? Is she financially HSE? (LSE = Hoes) Is she sexually HSE? (Sexually LSE = LD?)

You also have to mix these values up to give her the most value possible because she has them mixed up aswell. IE, girls think that having sex with you makes you like them. That's why not validating them gives you sex. That's some serious microcalibrating.

EDIT:
Confused examples:

AFC tries to buy sex with gifts. Thinks Material Value = Sexual Value.

PUA tries to sturr up emotions and get sex that way. Thinks Emotional Value = Sexual Value

[flow]

This is a really great post. Thanks for sharing it.

/Flow

[Pickup Professor]

BigCojones -

Many thanks for your post. As I am still relatively new to PU, can you spell-out all of your abbreviations so I can get a better understanding of what you said?

Thanks.

AR
C&F
GWM
HSE
HV
IE
IRL
IOW
JWS
LD
LSE
LTR
SE

[ballin]

Originally Posted by Pickup Professor

BigCojones -

Many thanks for your post. As I am still relatively new to PU, can you spell-out all of your abbreviations so I can get a better understanding of what you said?

Thanks.

AR
C&F
GWM
HSE
HV
IE
IRL
IOW
JWS
LD
LSE
LTR
SE

haha I know, too many acronyms. Not all are even PUA terms. I'll take a stab at this for you Pickup Professor, but I can't fill you in on all of those.

C&F - Cocky Funny. Exactly what it implies. A way of interacting with girls to give them a laugh while communicating that you are confident and don't take their shit.
GWM - Gunwitch Method. A PUA who's style was all about sexual state. He advocated that all you need to do is use a more natural, conversational method while projecting a strong sexual state. Then just bounce with the girl and F her.
SE, LSE, HSE - self esteem, low self esteem, high self esteem.
IE - just i.e. - that is to say, in other words
IOW - in other words
LTR - long term relationship.

...and I don't know the others.

Originally Posted by BigCojones

TI have felt no real desire for sex with women either, but have been VERY HAPPY eitherway. Been happy just coming home and jerking off.

Yikes! I can relate to you on having your social game kick ass and not having your sexual game strong enough because that's me. However, if I found myself saying the above quote I think I would be worried for myself.

I can kind of see what your saying on the whole sexual value vs. social value thing... but I'll be honest, I don't completely buy it.
With the situation where the girl has sex with you but says not to tell anyone-- I suppose that situation could happen if you're some kind of socially retarded nerd that just happens to be good at having sex (seems like it would be rare). But wouldn't being a good lover make you more socially valuable? I think this situation is more common with the guy who has sex with fat chicks to validate himself but doesn't want his buddies to find out.
I think there are other reasons girls would want to keep sex a secret like not wanting to be seen as a slut, not wanting a boyfriend to find out (through others knowing), or just wanting the privacy respected.

Originally Posted by BigCojones

PUA tries to sturr up emotions and get sex that way. Thinks Emotional Value = Sexual Value

Is this really a "confused example"? I think that in order to have good sex you have to be able to not only be dominant, but also be able to strongly engage a girl's emotions. Maybe you're talking about something else when you say emotional value, but I think that emotional value is highly correlated with sexual value.

Not trying to tear apart your post. It was interesting and got me thinking so I thank you for posting it here.