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Old 02-24-2008, 09:16 PM
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Default What to do when conversation dies.

Many of my attempted pickups are dying . She loses attraction or I do or we both do..We hit the dead spot where no one knows what to say.. or do..

Now what?
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Old 02-24-2008, 09:47 PM
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You aren't properly escalating if you're hitting a dead spot. Physically escalate properly and the feelings and thoughts will come naturally with it.
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Old 02-24-2008, 10:16 PM
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What if its happening early in the pick up like after asking a few questions/
How do I escalate ifshe isnt contributing much and im not finding much to be interested in except her looks. so 2 minutes of interaction and now i hit the deadspot. what to do next?

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Old 02-25-2008, 02:16 AM
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You aren't properly escalating if you're hitting a dead spot. Physically escalate properly and the feelings and thoughts will come naturally with it.
Perfect.

To add, it just really means that you bought temperature and it died down. Escalate while you can. If you can't, jump start with something new and then escalate.

Example:
You - "You must be one of those girls who like to model."
Her - "Yeah! I love it..."
You - "That's just so awesome!"
You would then want to hug her or play with her.

Always keep a positive and upbeat vibe with her so the BT doesn't die off.
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Old 02-25-2008, 04:43 AM
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Default positive vibe

when i have a positive vibe i dont have a problem. see , when there is a positive vibe i know what to do and how to escalate. my problem is when the vibe is more neutral or closer to the begining of a pickup like when the next thing one of us says can make or break the deal. like how to try and find out something of interest about her some kind of rapport taht will lead to where i can escalate.
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Old 02-25-2008, 05:30 AM
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You are talking about the qualifying stage of pickup (A3).

If you're stuck, you should use a chick crack. The Cube, palmistry, etc., would work fine. They build deep rapport while making her qualify. I typically only use these in the comfort stage of pickup.

And for qualifying, you should always give out mini-hoops. Example would be making her sit down, hold your drink, etc. You should also BHRR (Bait, hook, reel, release) during this stage. Example for BHRR:

You - Do you cook? (The bait and hoop)
Her - Yes, I cook. I make the best meatballs. (Hook: she's qualifying herself)
You - Meatballs! Great! I love meatballs. (Reward her IOI with your own IOI)
You - It's too bad that I only date tall girls. (Release: IOD calibrator)

Hopefully that helped.
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Old 02-25-2008, 05:43 AM
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Hate To Love Me » Conversationalism, Sexual Tension and Eliciting Emotions

Check it out.
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Old 02-27-2008, 09:48 AM
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LOL - ask a goddamn question. Escalate when she answers.
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Old 02-27-2008, 07:54 PM
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Default post your outline of ESCALATE

1. open
2.ask a question
3.???

yeah im dumb but dumb guys do get laid.. in fact when i was in school one of the dumbest guys was also ugly as hell and he always had more chicks around him than any of us.. oh and by the way did i mention he was a fucking ugly MIDGET? He drove a camero with a booster seat..!!
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Old 02-27-2008, 09:18 PM
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hahah hey man I didn't mean you are stupid. I said this in another thread.

Ask a question that focuses on her, what she's doing, how she thinks or feels about stuff. this will get her talking.

For example, she says she has to go to the grocery store later.

You ask - "what are you going to buy?"

Some steak and some soup and veggies (or wahtever)

You: "oh are you cooking later?"

Her: "yeah"

You: "what's your favorite thing to cook?"

So that's a question about what she thinks about food.

Her: "quiche" or whatever

You: "why's that?"

Again you are asking her about her thoughts and feelings.

Whatever she says, relate to it.
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Old 02-27-2008, 10:59 PM
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Many of my attempted pickups are dying . She loses attraction or I do or we both do..We hit the dead spot where no one knows what to say.. or do..

Now what?
You keep going...

You're a beginner, right? We all started that way. So keep going, if not knowing what to say stops you... that means NO PROGRESS.

Say anything, anything, anything... and when she becomes rude or you become REALLY umcomfortable, excuse yourself and tell her it was a pleasure to meet her.
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Old 02-27-2008, 11:53 PM
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Hey Craig I have a question for you - what's your touch game like? Are you touching these women?

What is the context? Are these street approaches or what?
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Old 02-28-2008, 10:37 PM
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Default well these are

are fast walking street type approach im moving fast expelling energy to approach the chick..then is she stops to talk i can do light touch but the hard ones are when im trying to break through resisistence and she is distracted perhaps or uptight.
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Old 02-28-2008, 10:49 PM
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Default well these are

are fast walking street type approach im moving fast expelling energy to approach the chick..then is she stops to talk i can do light touch but the hard ones are when im trying to break through resisistence and she is distracted perhaps or uptight.
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Old 03-01-2008, 11:07 PM
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are fast walking street type approach im moving fast expelling energy to approach the chick..then is she stops to talk i can do light touch but the hard ones are when im trying to break through resisistence and she is distracted perhaps or uptight.
If you're getting resistance, you did something wrong. Make her smile and she'll be more willing to open up to you. Girls are also a lot prettier when they smile, so it's encouraging for you too.
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