Give Opinions.. I wanna fight a guy

[brandon]

Hey all.
Hope doin fine.

Lately i saw a guy walking with my cousin.Probably she is in love with him.
But i wanted to beat that guy at that very moment.
Now i am going to beat him if i see him with my cousin.

Give opinions..Shud i beat him or not?

Thx

[Gabler]

I'll bet he will appericiate that. How would you feel if someone came and beat you up for hanging with a girl??

[J.J.]

Back up and relax for a second. What makes you want to beat him up? If it's a legitimate reason then it's up to you. But using brute force isn't always the best way to solve things.

[Heartwork]

Why would you beat up someone your cousin is in love with. Be happy for her

[Vin DiCarlo]

Brandon,

Your way of thinking is sooo incredibly out of line with someone who is successful with women.

You've been here for at least 6 months or more - are you learning anything? Are you starting to understand any of this?

I would really like to see you start making some progress. Is there something stopping you?


Vin

[Lester]

That's just ridiculous... kick the guys ass if he's wronging your cousin but if not that, and he's a real cool guy, but you don't like him being with your cousin, then that's your issue, not theirs. You need to be on new level of thinking, I recommending finding some guys you'd like emulate.

[brandon]

Hey Guys.
I need help.

How do u guys go about to lay a girl step by step.
I wanna know bit by bit from which part do you start(approaching her) to the end(fucking her).

I am not into long term relationships.
Coz i cannot stay with 1 girl for long.My goal is only to fuck her.
So guys when u go on the date u will fuck her and what happens after that.Do u still see each other OR do u look for another target coz i look for another target the next day.

Give me your strategies>.>My sticking point is that i do not know very well when and at what point to use escalation, roleplay,seduction etc
Give feedbacks

[Hengman]

Originally Posted by brandon

Hey Guys.
I need help.

How do u guys go about to lay a girl step by step.
I wanna know bit by bit from which part do you start(approaching her) to the end(fucking her).

I am not into long term relationships.
Coz i cannot stay with 1 girl for long.My goal is only to fuck her.
So guys when u go on the date u will fuck her and what happens after that.Do u still see each other OR do u look for another target coz i look for another target the next day.

Give me your strategies>.>My sticking point is that i do not know very well when and at what point to use escalation, roleplay,seduction etc
Give feedbacks

...6 months and you didn't progress? Wow.

Well, anyways, all of the other guys were right. Listen to them.

Tell me this: Are you direct or indirect?

But I'll take it step by step just to help you. Here's what you should do:

1) Approach/Engage (there are three parts to this which are confidence, social intelligence, and flipping the script (reframing)).
2) Spike positive emotions
3) Escalate
4) Repeat.

So, here's the breakdown of each step:

1) Approach/Engage - Confidence includes two things: An emotional tone and a reaction pattern. Emotional tone should present: Focused outward and non-judgmental. Be relaxed -- positive and emotionally available. Do not focus on yourself, do not be aloof, do not be judgmental, and do not exhibit a persona (such as being mysterious). Confidence is a very strong attractor to a woman. Now, the reaction pattern: What do you like? Amplify the positive aspects. Ignore the "shit-tests". If you can't ignore a "shit-test", you flip the script; reframe it.

Social intelligence is the key to approaching, rapport building, and escalating. You would need to know what's appropriate. Be aware of inclusiveness, the purpose of the interaction, how much time you're taking in relation to others, and the social sphere is any communication others can perceive. Understand the concepts of indirect and direct approaches. Direct - She's already attracted. Indirect - She's not had a chance to get attracted yet. Learn how to vibe. Talk about expressing judgment on anything the other person says or does, and vibing builds rapport because she's filling everything in. Your social sphere are your friends and value status (are you high valued or low valued). Private sphere includes emotion and arousal. Work sphere includes co-workers and value status, and even more. The social sphere is any communication others can perceive. Here's what you can do: It is OK to disagree and it can be approval giving. It is VERY important to agree or disagree without getting emotional (don't get mad over some stupid shit because you don't agree with it). Resume your friendly conversation on another topic (multi-thread). This would be a sign that you actually meant what you're saying and doing.

Flipping the script (making her chase and want you) - You would want to get women to react to you the way men react to beautiful women. Since you're confident, your main attractor is your attention. Make sure she doesn't lose that. I would demo this for you, but I can't. So anyways, flipping the script means inverting the perceived relationship value.

Now how do you spike emotions?

2) Spiking positive emotions - Spikes are IOIs (indicators of interest). You should know this by now, so I'm not going over it. If you see ANY spikes (IOIs), then they are escalation windows. Miss too many and she'll feel a lack of chemistry. But how do you create spikes? Easy, and here's how: Touching is the biggest attractor is direct and indirect game (and Vin DiCarlo will tell you the EXACT same thing). Touching changes the game up as it converts you from friendly into more dominant. Sexual interest is an attractor, too. Intent is the deepest form of connection. State and statements of interest (dirty talk) is very sexy to her. Playful teasing is also a big attractor. Storytelling is another attractor. Your stories should have: a hook, a metaphorically or indirectly attractive situation, a twist, and a funny or thematic tag. Hang on to your stories a big until you've built the ammo for yourself (this is basically saving the best for last). Start off with short stories, then go onto longer stories when you go deeper with her. Ask these questions to her after you've told a short related story about yourself: What's your most embarrassing moment? What are your dreams and goals? What's your family's birth order? When did you have your first kiss? Did you ever get spanked? What are your peak experiences? Etc. Remove obstacles or fears from her and that's an attractor. Remove the fear of: pregnancy, health issues, safety issues, social costs, abandonment issues, and awkwardness (having a period, etc.). Learn how to role play, do something with her, be funny, be with her silently, qualify compliments (give them to her when she deserves it), innuendos, sensual language, patterns, and be intriguing. Being playful is a BIG attractor. Emotionally, go through EACH attractor to see which one she responds to. Vibing helps give you some time to look for each attractor. Rhythmically, when you've got her spiking, ignore the spikes every once in a while. When she amplifies her next spike, go for a big escalation. This is all ways to get her to comply to you. Here's what that should look like: Ask for compliance, reward her, repeat. Reward her with an escalation as much as possible when she complies. The more she complies, the more direct your rewards can be (from kissing to actually finger fucking her). Take risks. It is VERY sexy to get rejected.

But how should you escalate? When?

3) Escalation - Escalation is all about timing and rhythm. Always escalate as deep as you can when you can. I would demo this, but I can't. But anyways, logistics: form of screening, escalation tactic, and ask for one after a spike. If your spikes get rejected and you don't get fazed, that's a huge attractor. Most of the escalating ways are from your attractors. After an attractor, reward her for it (touching is a big one). Shit, I'll give you an demo to do this: Let's say you're on the subway train. Approach/Engage: *waving your hand in front of her face to grab her attention* Are those working for you (iPod)? She would respond, "Oh yeah," or blah blah. You then spike her emotions with, "Cause I was going to get one of those to keep girls from hitting on all of the time so I wondering how it was working for you. She then laughs -- Big spike. You see this and you escalate by touching her arm for a second and say, "Seriously, I liked the way you look, and I thought you might be fun to get to know. After this repeat the process with a screening question and spike her emotions AGAIN.

Easy. Usually, I wouldn't help people who give negative issues. I'm being nice.

So, there, I showed what you should do and how it works. Easy concept to learn, but now you have to know. So, get into it. Good luck.

And be positive about things.

[brandon]

Hey Dude.

Give me the direct approach rule as well as the indirect one.
I want to improve on both.
I think i am a little bit slow to learn and after all every person are not the same.

waiting for your reply

thx

[Hengman]

It's part of what I've typed up for you.

I would definitely teach you in person, but I don't know how that would work.

Direct is just straight to point as if she was interested or is interested.

Indirect is building the attraction from scratch.

[Gabler]

Originally Posted by Hengman

I would definitely teach you in person,

Just be careful not to be seen with any women...

[Hengman]

lol

I'm not worried about that. I'm just a guy who help out other guys who have problems with their game. I'm here in the community to help people create themselves and live happy.

We all don't live for long.

[Daniel_B]

What about going out there until you get it right?
Even if you read the perfect step by step guide, it will not help if you don't have the minimum idea of approaching in the actual field .
And don't you fight the guy your cousin is with. What's so wrong about it? Try to help her instead.

[Vincent Chase]

Brandon,

This is like asking a cartographer to show you the world. This is like asking an etymologist to increase your vocabulary.

It's simply not that easy; we can give you tools, we can give you tips, we can give you bits and pieces; the majority of it, however, will have to come from you.

-VC

[yeayea]

Originally Posted by Vincent Chase

Brandon,

This is like asking a cartographer to show you the world. This is like asking an etymologist to increase your vocabulary.

It's simply not that easy; we can give you tools, we can give you tips, we can give you bits and pieces; the majority of it, however, will have to come from you.

-VC

well said

Brandon - i have read a bunch of your posts so far and i dont think technique is what you need - Vin said it best: your way of thinking is way out of line with what it takes to get good with women - that must be fixed first in my opinion - unfortunately it is hard to understand why your views are out of line without knowing more about you

what country are you from? how old are you? what experience have you had with women? this would be a good place to start i think

in my opinion you need more social awareness - just go out and make friends with people - try talking to this guy you want to fight - understand how humans behave and not just what you want out of people

natural game is not about a quick fix