How to keep a conversation interesting and flowing, please help

[nyana]

I think this is one of my major problems. I'm new to the seduction community [been around since last October, reading stuff only, and never practising...]

Personally, I don't think I'm afraid of approaching, I'm more afraid of my problem of not knowing how to keep a conversation from going stale and seem like a jerk.

Thanks

[Domino]

I have the same problem I go blank alot and encounter silent awkward moments.

[roberto3331]

Something that i realized sometime ago was that you dont nessessarly need interesting topics/threads.

Escalation in itself is the Interesting thing that keeps an interaction going.
Sexual Tension, is way more Interesting to a girl then, "Who lies more, men or women?".

P.S. its okay to be a Jerk

I found this on youtube:
YouTube - Vin Dicarlo on Approaching, Opening and Hooking

[Domino]

When I cant think of what to say next I always ask the typical whats your name?, what are you doing later?, how are you?, you come here often? When I say stuff like that even if im escalating the girl/girls will walk away because it feels like im just another guy who is trying to get in there pants. But if I go in with a routine or line its much easier to get a reaction out of them but then im going in reaction seeking and my value is automatically lower if im trying to impress the girl/girls.

Also I naturally have a deep voice but when I go in and open I can tell my voice changes to a more fluctuating higher pitch and that kills me as well. Vocal projection is so danm important especially in a hyped up club. Clubs can be hell when it comes to this stuff in day game you can get away with the boring rapport get to know you questions because girls dont get approached in the day time so you already stand out by breaking social norms.

[Lester]

You can't think "what do I say next."

Be in the moment and listen to what she says, don't switch topics to fast and instead of thinking what to say, think about connecting with her.

It's all a thought process.

What i've learned is that, the conversation is really about being comfortable with each other so as long as you keep talking, the more time she's given to feel comfortable around you.

[dman]

don't be afraid of a bit of silence! often she might be feeling uncomfortable during the silence purely because you are finding the silence uncomfortable

[Lester]

Originally Posted by dman

don't be afraid of a bit of silence! often she might be feeling uncomfortable during the silence purely because you are finding the silence uncomfortable

A bit, as the time goes yeah imo.

but silences are great I just don't think they're useful when you approach a woman... because you want to meet her so you're asking her questions and such.

You can own the silence. Consider it the vacuum, where you are the one placing pressure on her to be the social one.

Also instead of asking questions, start making statements: "You have a midwestern feel to you."

[Lester]

Well it's my style to ask questions, I like to go deep into the conversation and I display my interest bluntly, I do remain silence, or the vacuum after I ask a question and let her respond with a deeper answer.

[Orleans]

Hate To Love Me » Conversationalism, Sexual Tension and Eliciting Emotions

[diablo]

Originally Posted by nyana

I think this is one of my major problems. I'm new to the seduction community [been around since last October, reading stuff only, and never practising...]

Personally, I don't think I'm afraid of approaching, I'm more afraid of my problem of not knowing how to keep a conversation from going stale and seem like a jerk.

Thanks

[took this straight out of a field report of mine on the forum]

if she's not talkative (which this girl was not much of a talker... shygirl)
i begin multiple threading.
and holy shit this is fucking $MONEY$

the technique
the basic multiple thread technique is to introduce a series of threads
that flow in a manner,
such that they can cut themselves off.
for example-
"last time i was here... THE WEIRDEST shit happened.... we we're upstairs and..... speakin of weird, you know.... they found a new species..... yea...... i saw it on this show...... and that show.... also talked about people with blue eyes.... and the importance they possess in our culture"

the Structure:
i introduced 3 topics that all cut themselves off.
1. the weird thing that happened last time i was here
2. the new species
3. people with blue eyes

after i introduce this stuff...
i just kick back.
and i KNOW she will pickup on one of those things...

build a few stock multiple thread routines
FROM YOUR LIFE
so they sound real...
this might take you a total of 10 minutes... maybe.
but could save your ASS when you run outta shit to say!

[king_david23]

I have to ask...why are you talking to her? what is your intent? Is it getting toknow her? meet her? have sex with her? what is it exactly that you are intending to do? and with that in mind it provides you a clear map as to where to take the conversation, speak up, be direct and let her know where your coming from and the rest will fall into place.

[ak-47]

That's funny... It took me 4ever to get pass the openers, I would open sets like a pro and after I opened the set I went completely brain dead, I use to even stack openers... DON'T DO IT! It makes you look like an idiot. I think the magic is in the numbers, if you do anything long enough you will eventually get good at it... If you have a hard time coming up with material while you're out I would subscribe to mydigitalwing. They can SMS you all kinds of good material! You text "MyWing Opener" or "MyWing DHV" to 313131 and they text back an opener or a DHV story. The good part is that they don't charge anything for it. Not sure how they make money or if they make money, but I like it, so now if I'm in the club and I go brain dead, I just request for an opener and once I get it I try not to think and just charge the set. It’s like Mystery says "If you gonna wreck the room, WRECK IT!!!"

P.S. Getting a drink or two in me helps too!

[phantom13]

Originally Posted by ak-47

That's funny... It took me 4ever to get pass the openers, I would open sets like a pro and after I opened the set I went completely brain dead, I use to even stack openers... DON'T DO IT! It makes you look like an idiot. I think the magic is in the numbers, if you do anything long enough you will eventually get good at it... If you have a hard time coming up with material while you're out I would subscribe to mydigitalwing. They can SMS you all kinds of good material! You text "MyWing Opener" or "MyWing DHV" to 313131 and they text back an opener or a DHV story. The good part is that they don't charge anything for it. Not sure how they make money or if they make money, but I like it, so now if I'm in the club and I go brain dead, I just request for an opener and once I get it I try not to think and just charge the set. It’s like Mystery says "If you gonna wreck the room, WRECK IT!!!"

P.S. Getting a drink or two in me helps too!

LOL AK, I like your style. Question though, how long have you been using the mydigitalwing thing? I have heard of them from my friends but never checked it out. are there any hidden charges, spam or something? Thanks

[bigd213]

I have been using mydigitalwing for a little while now and I havent been charged anything - and no spam.

I used it cause I was running so many sets that I was getting tired of my own material and wanted to make things a little more interesting for myself. I requested a few new negs and openers and it was like a whole new game. I even re-opened previous sets with new material.