Nataurals!!!!! , mith or true!

[chileno]

Hello, i am new in the forum, read the atraction code and is the best book I had ever read about the subjetc, period.
Maybe you can help me about something, I am a student of a good university here in Chile and dont have many time to "play the game" as you may said. and I never ever have meet a real natural with woman, I have meet men that are charismatics, enterteiment and all(I considered myself kind of this way), and they are not really really good with woman(including myself)..........

Anyway, exist that kind of men or is just idealized?

I think so, and all the descriptions that talk about a man like that is: He talks soft, small framed, really animalistic and not good locking(Dustin from "the game"neil strauss book, and the man itself Vin Dicarlo). I think that my realy self is not so talktative and I dont know if that is good or bad.....
Can you tell me something about this?

[Zudnic]

I was better in high school. And I'm trying to be that guy again! Grade 7 I liked this girl Samantha. Did all the wuss weak bull stuff trying to attract her. Even walked her home every day after school. Ended up giving up even trying and resided myself to being a pudgy geek loser with braces. Parents bought a new house and steep driveway walking up everyday and swimming all summer. Lost the baby fat and braces came off. Still felt the same geek fat kid! End of summer same age female cousins friend jumped me! Then started high school, met some new girls and they tracked down my phone. Suddenly I was the guy that all the girls thought was "cute". I became cocky and tad bit arrogant.......... The girl I had a crush on and walked home every day was proudly telling other girls I was her first boyfriend. Her little sister even called and told me she wanted me to be her first. I fucked it up by getting into a high school relationship! She broke up with me and turned into a wuss boy and hesitated with Women I liked. Got lucky... Still get the odd girl come onto me and are easy. Found my cocky arrogant guy when sulking in Phoenix and after giving up trying to find girls. Even today I still feel like the pudgy fat kid....... Phoenix gained weight was even fat. Moved to Toronto ate less better food and exercised.. One girl who I worked with nicknamed me after a character in a Brad Pitt movie cause she thought I looked like him! Started off moving here a little over weight by 30lbs broke up with girlfriend and can hesitate. Had a friends girlfriend say to me when I was in a unattractive whats wrong with me mode: "you don't know how good looking you are do you?" I could not answer.......... Didn't feel it! Looks are not enough with most girls.............................

You can learn to be natural and its not a myth.

[chileno]

Many thanks man...........I got another realy important question, and maybe you or other person coul answer.

Looks really matter?
In High School, the best girl of all college was into me, I couldnt belive until was to late, when she got a boyfriend 10 years old that her, but she still wants me....... I get mad with her for being with other man and never did anything about it, How smart ha?

Anyway in that time i dont consider myself really good looking(now I know am not bad, because woman look at me, but definitly not a really handsome man) because I got many grains in the face(i dont know if is correct, google traductor isnt very usefull)........ Anyway, what is your opinion for real about this, because and i think you can tell, when you go out with a men who is much more good looking that you, the woman start paying much more attention to him and is very hard to "work" this way............I thik this is a great questions and I need a great answer.

[sam]

Originally Posted by chileno

Many thanks man...........I got another realy important question, and maybe you or other person coul answer.

Looks really matter?
In High School, the best girl of all college was into me, I couldnt belive until was to late, when she got a boyfriend 10 years old that her, but she still wants me....... I get mad with her for being with other man and never did anything about it, How smart ha?

Anyway in that time i dont consider myself really good looking(now I know am not bad, because woman look at me, but definitly not a really handsome man) because I got many grains in the face(i dont know if is correct, google traductor isnt very usefull)........ Anyway, what is your opinion for real about this, because and i think you can tell, when you go out with a men who is much more good looking that you, the woman start paying much more attention to him and is very hard to "work" this way............I thik this is a great questions and I need a great answer.

I think that is highschool people believe looks matter,it's all about being popular in school and most populair people do look good in highschool.
But once you're older looks don't matter so much anymore.
My opinion is that most naturals look good and that's also the reason why they are so good with the game,the are so confident and happy with themself because they are goodlooking.



grtz

[Lester]

Originally Posted by sam

I think that is highschool people believe looks matter,it's all about being popular in school and most populair people do look good in highschool.
But once you're older looks don't matter so much anymore.
My opinion is that most naturals look good and that's also the reason why they are so good with the game,the are so confident and happy with themself because they are goodlooking.



grtz

Sam is getting on a very good topic when it comes to BEING NATURAL. Whatever that means but seriously

If you look at two people doing the same thing, lets say playing basketball, one is struggling and putting in so much effort just to get the ball go down. While the other one is having fun, and doing what he loves to do, and the ball is going down, effortlessly.

Having sex with women is Natural for, here comes the key word "Naturals"
It's EFFORTLESS for them. It's a part of their HABITS.

Back to what's SAM is saying. Goodlooking people, really really good looking people as Zoolander would put it can get sex, especially if they're like an Artist or a Movie star. Fame and Looks work. But I don't considered being goodlooking means they're natural. They might naturally get women but there's more to it. Knowing how intrigue a woman, communicate with her, build sexual tension, close deal, such and such.

A goodlooking man or a ugly man can be both naturals, but just by automatically being one due by genes and birth does not determine whether you're a natural.

Looks don't matter.

Naturals have their game on AUTOPILOT, It's HABIT or SECOND NATURE for them. They do what they do with little or no effort.

my 2 cents.

[sam]

here's what i think is neccesairy for the game:
You need to be happy and fully aware of your body and yourself before you can aproach with succes.
Naturals are completely one with their body and themself. That's their secret of succes.


That's what i think


greetz from belgium

[chileno]

Thanks for all the ideas for this......... all are great. The best men a have ever meet with woman is from Colombia and live with me(am student), he has sleep with more than 100 woman and got 32 years(I dont know your standar). One thing that most surprise me was when one time we go out together to meet girls in daytime, and when we go back to our place, I what to know what he think that I did wrong with the girls or what was I missing............. the answer shocked me.....................

He said that he consider that i was more sure that he, that I was relly fun with girls and that he love the way I tesed the girls I just meet(thats come natural to me, i love to mess with people in a friendly way). But that sometimes I am so unsure of myself that he couldnt belive the why. I think thats all that matters is just be yourself(i think that all of us know what that really means, you dont come from a place of she is better that you, but at least you are the same that her).
I know that all I got to do is to train my focus in the right things, and all that need is practice, but sometimes is so hard......... I like to be like a child that never quit something until they learned.
I think the leason of today is that look matters, but personality is much more attractive that looks, period.

[Lester]

Originally Posted by sam

here's what i think is neccesairy for the game:
You need to be happy and fully aware of your body and yourself before you can aproach with succes.
Naturals are completely one with their body and themself. That's their secret of succes.


That's what i think


greetz from belgium

thing is there are those who are happy with themselves but in their communication and sexual communication with the opposite sex is game less... yes being happy with yourself is pre-requisite but there are other things like escalation and building sexual tension other than being happy with yourself that come into play.