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Old 07-19-2008, 09:56 PM
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this is my bread and butter boys.
this gets them emotional.
this will get them laughing so you can slide in with more kino (begin the ladder)

it's equivalent to those cartoons where a character gets knocked on the head and sees stars and shit spinning around their head.

best part is... you can make it into the most ridiculous sentence fragments ever. terrible use of the english language.

i decided to try out the butchering of the english language last night.
push/pull in sentence fragments.

example-
i see a girl at my local club.. she's looking at me, so i point at her and raise an eyebrow, she smiles... i walk in and i say, "hi" she says, "hi." I then immediately go into the fragmented slaughter of this lovely language we call english. "i hate you.... i love you." <hug her> she's giggling, it's working. while i'm hugging her i say, "i love you, because you suck" <i GENTLY push her away>. she gets a pouty look, "wait, we're getting married" <grabbing both of her hands> she smiles and giggles, it's still working. "we're getting divorced." <throwing her hands down> super giggly response now. "because you cheated on me!" i say. she says, "no i would never.." i say, "i forgive you!" <hugging her> then i say, "CHEATER!" and gently push her away again.
then when i can tell those stars are spinning around her head.. i say, "hey i want you to come meet my friends." and i grab her hand and walk away with her.

shit it was easy, and you're damn right it's a horrid display of english. we bounced to an after party but nothing went down between her and i. but think about these possibilities boys.. that paragraph seemed like a quickie, AND IT WAS THAT QUICK. that's all it took to move her and introduce her.

im going out again tonight with the same experiment in mind this time i'm going to go for a less than 5 minute make-out after i move the girl.
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Old 07-19-2008, 10:24 PM
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Hell yeah, man! Push/Pull works all the time. I literally use it in my interactions like it's a normal thing.

I also like to use flirtacious remarks followed with takeaways. I learned this from Juggler. He says most guys use sarcasm to flirt with girls, but he prefers something different. I forgot what he calls it, but an example I like to use quite frequently is, "Damn, Girl! I'm having a good time with you and it's becoming very annoying. You're gonna have to leave now! I can't stand having a great time with you!", while pointing to the door with a big smile.

It's your basic push/pull, but with a twist. Great stuff.

I'm learning how to use Swingcat's techniques on Hardcore push/pull, which I'm getting the hang of, but want more practice for proper calibration. Swingcat calls it compliancy triggers, but sexual frames, in his opinion, work even better.

Sonic gives a perfect example of sexual framing in his field report. It worked for him very well because he used it at the right time and it got him the compliance he was looking for, which ultimately led to his intended outcome.

If anything, it all comes down to logistics, which can usually be a bitch. What you think?

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Old 07-19-2008, 11:40 PM
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Hell yeah, man! Push/Pull works all the time. I literally use it in my interactions like it's a normal thing.

I also like to use flirtacious remarks followed with takeaways. I learned this from Juggler. He says most guys use sarcasm to flirt with girls, but he prefers something different. I forgot what he calls it, but an example I like to use quite frequently is, "Damn, Girl! I'm having a good time with you and it's becoming very annoying. You're gonna have to leave now! I can't stand having a great time with you!", while pointing to the door with a big smile.

It's your basic push/pull, but with a twist. Great stuff.

I'm learning how to use Swingcat's techniques on Hardcore push/pull, which I'm getting the hang of, but want more practice for proper calibration. Swingcat calls it compliancy triggers, but sexual frames, in his opinion, work even better.

Sonic gives a perfect example of sexual framing in his field report. It worked for him very well because he used it at the right time and it got him the compliance he was looking for, which ultimately led to his intended outcome.

If anything, it all comes down to logistics, which can usually be a bitch. What you think?
logistics can sometimes suck ass.
but they can sometimes flow sooo perfectly... don't you just love it when a woman is like, "yea, sure i'll come home with you!" ... mmm mmm .

we're on the same page.
shit we're in the same paragraph.
fuck that we're in the same sentence!
haha

push/pull will blindside a girl with good/bad emotions
i'm going to keep experimenting with this tonight and for many days to come.
i'm going to combine super SUPER simple cold reads with the push/pull tonight and try for quick makeouts to try to bring to the table a format for pulling using only push/pull and cold reads.

everyone reading this, experiment with rarebreed and i ! !
go out tonight with two things in mind, push/pull and cold reads...
er, and of course pulling the girl.
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Old 07-20-2008, 04:47 AM
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Hell yeah! That way we can all weed out what doesn't work and use what does work.

This will also help for proper calibration of techniques.
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Old 07-20-2008, 10:11 AM
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Hell yeah! That way we can all weed out what doesn't work and use what does work.

This will also help for proper calibration of techniques.
rarebreed.
just got home, it's 4:07 am

i'll give you the QUICK summary -
did push/pull immediately tonight.
my opener tonight on the 2set (which eventually turned into a 3set), "hi i'm diablo, i'm a fuckin dumbass.. wanna be my friend?"
1 girl says, "yes" while laughing.
i'm in.
i immediately go in with the push/pull
"i love you" <hugging her> "because you're a fuckin dumbass too" <pushing her away>
it was ON.
my buddy and i bounce to get money because this girl and her friends wanna goto a strip club and we need money to get in.
we see them there. my buddy starts talking to them.
i have to leave.
then i get a text from my buddy, "help me extract"
i literally run back to the strip club.
i extract them back to his house

make-outs and fun ensue.

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Old 07-21-2008, 04:24 AM
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rarebreed.
just got home, it's 4:07 am

i'll give you the QUICK summary -
did push/pull immediately tonight.
my opener tonight on the 2set (which eventually turned into a 3set), "hi i'm diablo, i'm a fuckin dumbass.. wanna be my friend?"
Lol! I'm definately gonna use that opener. It's funny because if they say no, their behavior can be framed as being rude or insensitive. Something like, "Did you leave your manners at home or did you flush them down the toilet with your poop?".

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my buddy and i bounce to get money because this girl and her friends wanna go to a strip club and we need money to get in.
we see them there. my buddy starts talking to them.
i have to leave.
then i get a text from my buddy, "help me extract"
i literally run back to the strip club.
i extract them back to his house

make-outs and fun ensue.

What happened to the cold reads? Who brought up going to the strip club first?

Sounds like you and your buddy are on the same page.

When I go out next weekend I'm gonna venue change the girls. I've done it by myself two to three times. I gotta keep pushing my threshold.

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Old 07-21-2008, 06:13 AM
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Lol! I'm definately gonna use that opener. It's funny because if they say no, their behavior can be framed as being rude or insensitive. Something like, "Did you leave your manners at home or did you flush them down the toilet with your poop?".
girls have said no before, and i reply with, "wait what!? what the fuck is wrong with you why not!!??" then grabbing her and hugging her "i love you!" then pushing her away "because you're a fuckin asshole!" ...all said in this accusative fun tone.



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What happened to the cold reads? Who brought up going to the strip club first?

Sounds like you and your buddy are on the same page.

When I go out next weekend I'm gonna venue change the girls. I've done it by myself two to three times. I gotta keep pushing my threshold.
yea.. about those cold reads... didn't happen. i just push/pulled and it was on.
BUT I STILL PLAN ON TRYING THEM TOMORROW OR NEXT NIGHT! ha

my buddy is awesome, i taught him everything i know and he has a great energy.
the girls actually suggested the strip club (they were on a bachellorete party)
so we told them we'd meet them there.
we see them there, and the friends are bitchy.
my buddy and i knew we just had to catch them outside the club and they'd be back at his place (we had mentioned going to my buddy's a few times previously in the night so it wouldn't sound random for us to say "okay lets go back to my buddy's now" at the end of the night)
so we avoid a tranny and bring 3 girls back home.

these girls were older (30's) than most girls i've brought home too by the way (wasn't many people out last night for some odd reason)
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Old 07-22-2008, 05:53 PM
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Push-pulls work best for the qualifying step, which is where the kinoing is accepted at its core.

But anyways, boom shalac lac boom.
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Old 07-23-2008, 06:45 AM
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It also works as a form of punishment. For example, If a girl says or insinuates that you're gay, just say something along the lines like, "You know, for a girl who wears out dated clothes, I'm glad you have an opinion. You get two points for having an opinion, but you're gonna have to earn eight points to be my friend.", and then talk about some article of clothes you recently bought or your favorite store that you like to shop at. Something to cut the thread.
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