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Old 08-20-2008, 09:33 PM
Easievibe Easievibe is offline
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Default Help with examples of sliding scale of compliance requests

Hey guys. Im just getting the hang of qualifiyng and asking girls for compliance. Im seeing how crucial this is and all that.

As Im new to this area Im still not sure what are good compliance tests for when. I know that everything can be seen as a compliance test or lack of complaince on one or the other person's part but would just like some examples from you guys of good ones ranging from small to large on the scale of meeting to fucking and getting gifts etc (mack game) from the girl. I know currently that 65% compliance is getting sex and 100% compliance is getting the girl to sell her pussy for you. Now I would like to fill in those gaps from opening to 65%! .

I know that getting compliance momentum soon is a good idea and doing things like teasing the girl till she qualifyies herself are good as she starts chasing and thus you can reward her for this and thus begin to brainwash her into complying to you.

Now I am still unsure of what are some good compliance requests in between meeting to sex so from 0% -65% compliance. When in a relationship I can see that requests like this are easy like 'Buy me this thing, get me this thing while you are at the store' but want some equivalent small ones which will get her on the track to being a good responder girl. As I think about it I can see it can be good to ask big things right away even if she doesnt comply as it can set a precedent that you expect such things. I know that Juggler specifically advocates this by asking large open ended quesitons right up front. I would like to hear other's opinion on this, however, as there are a couple of thoughts on it. MM school says that it is bad to ask a compliance request and have it rejected because it will produce negative compliance momentum as you lose value when she does not comply to your request, however, I know that Vin talks about it being a positive if you are able to frame control the situaiton by actuing unreactive and blowing her negation off as funny which has the effect of showing value. I would tend towards Vin's thinking in this case so long as I was confident I would not be bothered by the rebuttals as even if she rejects a request now, the precedent is set that I ask for big things and expect them fulfilled. It is like asking for the big thing has provided a far off waypoint which is seeded in her mind and I can continue building up the compliance ladder with that goal in (her) mind. The thing is, though, to get to the point where she complies to those big things. I first need her complying to smaller things and thus building the compliance ladder. So this is the quesiton of my post.

I'd like to hear examples of compliance that slowly build up in increments. I know there are other ways of doing this such as 'dirty compliance' where you reframe any of her actions as playing into your frame of her working to impres you etc. This is good but I know that actual compliance is supreme and yes a mix of both is good. Id also like to hear ways in which guys are able to 'turn aorund' and reframe possible rejected compliance requests as I will often lose a set when this happens as my frame is shaken. That has only happened though when I havent had this compliance model in mind and was shaken only cos I thought I was being blown out. Under this new paradigm, however, there really is no blowouts I guess and its just a case of being unreactive and keep escalating the compliance ladder till you get what you want. It's now just a quesiton of internalising this frame.

So what do you guys think?
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Old 10-28-2008, 04:25 AM
MrRabbit MrRabbit is offline
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Ok, so baby steps are a good place for you to start with compliance. Don't take that as an insult either, the best gains in my game have come from small observances.

Ok, first of all, the compliance request must seem natural, like everything you do.

Think of the times when you are over visiting at your friend's house, a guy or girl. Or even when you are on the phone with them. Something like this probably happened "Hey, will you get me the salt while you are up?"

"Stop by the store and get some beans for the chili please"

I am sure you get the point. And most importantly, don't think about it much at all. When the chance comes up to naturally request something, do it. Its that easy for starters. You will see improvements and ways to make larger requests as your game progresses. Learn to throw the ball, then learn how to hale merry for the touch down.
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Old 11-10-2008, 11:31 AM
Easievibe Easievibe is offline
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Thanks for the reply.

I'm getting a little better at this now, I think my main prob was that I wasn't making requests that was sitrel. Now I imagine onece you have alot of value (compliance momentum) that you can ask more unsitrel stuff as the girl is more willing but I've found generally that slipping them in innocuously at first hleps to get the ball rolling.

Agree?
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