Falling for girls you thought you didn't like.

[Hengman]

Well, there's been girls I've thought that I would NEVER be attracted to. And vice versa.

I've recently met a couple of girls who I thought weren't too emotionally appealing (they were hot, but real assholes if you ask me). But there's a couple of girls who aren't hot, but they are cute and they are really good quality girls that I got a chance to meet and really like. I'm pretty shallow too when it comes to women.

So anyways, just wanted to hear opinions on the subject of women in general. I don't wanna hear any PUA bullshit standard(s) unless it really comes from within your heart.

My game has gotten WAY improved with the help of some of the trainers here and even working on it myself just to see if I could mend my flaws (being too sexually overt, etc.).

So, opinions on types of women that you're genuinely interested in. I'm tired of hearing about PUAs with just model chicks (which some of the models aren't even hot or cute). Talk about how you guys feel about the women you like. This helps a lot with your framework.

[Mr. Incredible]

I'll admit it, I'm shallow. Looks do attract my attention, and I have a bit of a "thing" for dark skinned women - black, Indian, Asian. I'll go for a woman with that colouration even if she isn't conventionally "hot". Beyond that, she has to have her shit together. I was married to a disorganised, chaotic woman and it nearly drove me to suicide, no exaggeration. I ended up clinically depressed and with suicidal thoughts. Some success guru wrote that the right woman is essential to success and a bad one is disastrous, he wasn't wrong. Beauty is nice, but when you get right down to it, it's just a luxury. The right personality, someone who shares your ambitions and is willing to help you achieve them, is a necessity.

[Zudnic]

Looks are important. But think its bull shit that guys including gurus pull 10's 24/7. I tend to go for a range. From just above average to smoking hot exotic Latina girls. My last girlfriend visited me at my Universities lounge a few times. After the first time a few guys in my hands on labs flat out asked how in the hell do you land chicks like her. She was/is very hot but had self esteem issue's big time. All girls Catholic school and early teens she was chubby. she was not around guys a lot. Turned Veggie eater, no fast foods, and worked out every day. She became newly hot when I met her. Real control freak and when that didn't work. She tried put downs destroying my self esteem and when that failed she became very needy and clingy. Calling 20/30 times a day and needed to be with me every minute of her free time.

Exotic real hot chicks kind of scare me: be careful what you wish for; as well as girls who don't think they are not good looking enough. Some of the middle range still cute, nice body, girls will treat you better over real smoking hot chicks.

[Hengman]

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I experienced that recently.

But guys who really have issues with attraction, it's just 'cause of the frame and mindset they put for themselves.

I would rather have a ugly chick who treats me good (not needy) than a hot girl who doesn't know how to respect anyone.