"Approaching, Opening and Hooking"

[ITotem]

Vin teaches brand new stuff... but his foundation/mode of thinking is still VAC compatible. If you understand VAC deeply, you can see it. Compliance is the same concept. The Sexual Selection Switch was also once taught in theApproach's bootcamp.

[Vin DiCarlo]

I originally intended the VAC model to be an answer to Mystery and Tyler's "value" only model in which attraction was proportional to a value difference.

Obviously, there is more to attraction than just value. VAC answered that, and when I used to teach at theApproach, that was the best model we had. (To my knowledge, theApproach's framework still relies on VAC)

I have now left behind the VAC model for several reasons:

• The concept of "value" is entirely useless, and anyone who has taken Drills knows I produce spectacular results without mentioning value once. This is in part due to streamlined cognitive models, also taking a person's focus off of his own value improves his state and inner game tremendously. (No more "Do I have value? Do I have value?" internal dialogue)
• I have done away with attainability in the sense that it is no longer a 2-dimensional "quantity" of something needed in a sarge, but rather a "woman-specific" calibration tool, I now call "credibility". The definition is much tighter and now functions on the level capable of getting women to leave their boyfriends, move across the country or quit their jobs to be with you. Keep in mind I am now very careful in choosing my students, and will not teach these types of things to people with bad intentions.
• My compliance techniques have taken on a mind of their own - (Again, drills participants can attest to the level I have developed this to) and no longer fit inside the limited constraints of VAC.
• I get bored of my old concepts quite easily

Overall it's a huge improvement, not only did my own game evolve by leaps and bounds, but my students also respond much better and have less to 'think' about in the field.

Vin

[MeHigher]

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Vin.. when i open sets.. voice projection and modulation i think is very imp.. cause its been my sticking point.Most Good PUA or naturals i know... basically get all thier pickup based on a good voice.. How to develop it?

[yeayea]

Vin -

Drilling these skills really seems to make a lot of sense. Its like developing your reactions, and your subconscious (beliefs) should follow in order to be congruent with your actions.

However, due to either logistics or finances or both, we are not all able to take the bootcamp (at least for now). In the meantime, what are some other ways of developing this new model/skillset? Or are we better off following the VAC model or some other model?

MeHigher/Vin - i have the same question about vocal training. im decent at projecting and having presence, but im interested in developing tonal control. (i posted a similar question about how to develop your voice elsewhere - i think it would be a good question for vin to address in the video). I purchased The Sound of Your Voice by Carol Fleming (audio program) from Amazon some time ago. Seems like a good program but I just havent been able to sit home and give it the time and attention it deserves. Will post a review if I find it helpful.

[Cola]

Ditto on the voice training question for Vin.

Vin, I noticed in your video response that you have a pretty slick sexual relaxed tonality in your voice. How did you get your tonality to sound like that?

A caveat for tonality in your upcoming video response for approaching and hooking would be much appreciated.

Keep up the great work Vin!

[FreeVerse]

Our bodies are like a guitar. We need wind to play our music. I suggest get an Voice acting book and start doing the exercises. When you talk, talk from you diagphram... it gives your voice a resonance which will make the people you talk to feel a vibration inside.

Say you're only with a girl, you can also talk breathy, and low. Don't whisper. Whispering messes up your vocal cords. Talk soft and low. That she'll have to lean in to hear you.

Listen to late night radio stations and listen to the voice that attracts the most...

Many people in the radio business have had many love letters, been asked out, and been prosposed to because of the sound of their voice.

Originally Posted by MeHigher

insane post insanity..



Vin.. when i open sets.. voice projection and modulation i think is very imp.. cause its been my sticking point.Most Good PUA or naturals i know... basically get all thier pickup based on a good voice.. How to develop it?

[nm2002]

I have a question for Vin....do you have some fun roleplaying techiniques to share if possible that take it to more sexual level...

socond question if you could have the audio recording from opening to ONS the whole interaction that would be super helpful I think, or maybe some video footage. (that is the best way to learn becaouse you have the live example)..

[superman]

When is the video response coming?

[MrBlah]

Oh yeah. I forgot to ask.. any advice on self-esteemed women?

P.S: You look exactly like my friend Goran, exept that he is gay