Question about the DiCarlo Escalation Ladder

[walnuts]

I just have a question about the DiCarlo Escalation Ladder.

If it's not possible to complete the entire ladder on a day 2, would it still be possible to just do part of the ladder (not including the escalation ramp) and leave the rest of the ladder to finish on a day 3? Or is it better to complete the entire ladder on the day 2? Thanks.

[ITotem]

Remember, if you can hit the higher levels of the ladder, it unlock the lower levels. So it really depends on the girl. If she's comfortable with you starting from where you left off on Day 3, you are all good.

If not, just start Day 3 from somewhere lower, but I don't think you need to start from the bottom. Usually, you can probably ramp it back up very fast on Day 3 since you already established some kino.

[Vin DiCarlo]

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You don't need to worry about completing the ladder on your first day2.

For a day2 where you can't close the deal, at least make sure:

• You at least have some kino and are building sexual tension consistently. (I would say overt class 1 at the LEAST)
• You do not prematurely start the escalation ramp. (Never start the ramp unless you are in full isolation and know you can close.)

And ITotem's advice also applies.

Vin

[005]

I went on a date this last Wednesday, with a girl I meet on Friday, got was going great I believe for the fist time using the ladder. Great Kino, but after two hours at this Arabic Coffee Shop we where the only customers and the Kino was at the point where I could have went in for a kiss or more face contact but it was not loud so I could use that for an excuse and to make it worse all of the coffee shop employees where taking a break at a table 10 ft from the couch we where sitting. So I plan on continuing where I left off on the ladder, the next time I see her. I should have kissed her when we walked to our cars in the parking lot. It just didn’t want to scare her away and didn’t think she would. I need to stop thinking this why…lol

Not sure what day2 or day3 means? Are you talking about the amount of dates? Also, she still hasn’t given me her cell phone number. I have to wait till she is home to call her house number. Vin, what do you think? How can I work with this? I never had a girl only give me a house number before…lol It got me off balance, cant text or IM her.

[ITotem]

Day 1 = day you first met the girl
Day 2 = first date
Day 3 = second date... and so on and so forth.

I don't want to sound condescending but... did you actually ask for her cell number?

[005]

Please have mercy on me but, no, I did not. When I spoke to her the day before we where vibbing very well on the phone ,so at the end I told her that I was very busy and stay in contact in with ppl via text messenging. I asked her for her cell and she said she did give out her cell phone out to just anybody. Unless she finds them interesting? I said "So I am not interesting? She said "It just..." I said "You had bad expirances with ppl calling you all the time and phone stocking you....lol? She said "yes, something like that." I asked her if she like to meet me at this Arabic Coffee shop tomorrow and she said she and to call her after 6:30pm. She would be home from work by then and I could call her any time after that. So I said my see you laters and the next day I we meet there.

[005]

I forgot to add: I didnt ask because I had just asked the day before and figured if the date went well she would provide it or call me from her cell. Also, I not she how to word asking for it again. Cant someone help me out with wording as well?

[Vin DiCarlo]

005 -

Don't sweat getting the cell number. It actually takes MORE trust for a girl to give you her house number. Cells are easy to ignore.

Go ahead and keep making progress using the house number and don't even ask for the cell. Make HER want to give it to you.

Just invite her to meet you out for a surprise (meet at a grocery store), then when she gets there tell her the surprise is that you'll be cooking dinner together. Go shopping for the ingredients, and then take the ingredients back to your place and have fun making dinner with her.

Then watch a DVD together and ramp the ladder....

[005]

Vin, that is great! The only I am worried about is that she lives with her parents.

[walnuts]

I have the same sort of problem on figuring out where to isolate her, since I'm still in school and can't afford my own place right now.

Is it possible to do the escalation ramp in a car? How would you do it, because it's kind of cramped in there.