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| note: This started as a comment in another thread but I moved it because it became something else. The reason I'm hanging around in this forum is because the dicarlo escalation ladder is very similar to what I've done almost every time I got a girl in bed in my entire life. I haven't seen anything from anyone else that I know from experience will work. Except one thing "the movie moment opener" they teach at pickup101 is something I think will work too, based on my personal experience, at least for me. I think Styles is really interesting to watch, however. The way he talks and moves with confidence is what makes him attractive. Sometimes when I talk about something that I find interesting and I speak with passion about it, I can get the same kind of reactions as he does, from both men and women. I'm pretty sure its because what is attractive is the combination of passion and being totally confident about the thing you talk about. I usually don't banter or do routines, its not me, and it doesn't seem necessary. If a girl (or a customer) banters with me I might banter back once or twice. Then I change the subject. I might play games like the 5 questions game or do cold readings but only to amuse myself when I'm totally bored. I don't think routines like that is very useful. Also the reason I'm here is NOT to get laid more. The reason I'm here is I want to become a much better salesperson and a much better leader. And the knowledge I find in the Pick Up community is of a kind that qualifies and disqualifies theories in psychology, management, leadership and sales-techniques. Because everything is crash and burn tested. What I have figured out is that I can create enormous amounts of attraction under the right circumstances. Attraction is fundamental for sales, leadership and getting laid. I didn't understand why and when I could do that before. I do now. I also know how to handle the part in sales, leadership and getting laid when the customer, employee or girl is committed. That would be when you kiss a girl and she kisses back, when a customer says "we are very impressed, we really would like to buy your services" or an employee says "wow that is sooo cool, I want to do that". The principle is the same in all cases. Escalate fast from that point. To get laid you escalate kino in a sexual manner. The dicarlo style of fingering the girl is a masterpiece, personally I usually start kissing the girl everywhere on her body, on the clothes, on all bare skin I can find, I also bite her teasingly everywhere. The result has always been that she starts to remove her clothes so I can kiss more bare skin. Then I often eat her while she has her panties on, especially if I get LMR trying to remove them. If its a customer, you escalate project planning and organise calendars, long before any final price has been agreed on. When everything is planned I state "I'm going to bill you like this ... ... is that OK?" For employees its rather similar to customers. My problem is I'm not good enough at moving from attraction to commitment. There is a lot of stuff in-between I need to learn. And I'm beginning to get it now. I'm sure that in all the three cases, customers, employees and girls its the same. Its warm but very dominant kino that will do the trick. Basically its the first steps in the dicarlo ladder done in a warm, caring and very dominant way that I think is the way to go. That will make me much better at sales, a much better leader and as a side effect I will be able to get laid a lot if I want to. Now as you probably understand I cant experiment on my customer and employees, so I experiment a lot on women (and men) elsewhere. Because I want to express warm dominance I mostly do overt kino. I do things like putting my arm around people in a kind of sideways hug and then ask them "How are you?" when I greet them. Direct, overt and immediate kino is my training mantra at the moment. I also try to move people around using kino as much as possible. I try to do this everywhere, If someone ask me for directions on the street I grab them somewhere and turn them in the right direction, before I show them where to go. Then I pat them on the back to get them going. Almost every day I realise I've missed opportunities to kino because I wasn't prepared for a situation like that. So I'm constantly thinking of new ways to do overt kino in class 1 and 2 that works in different contexts. Its very dominant to go directly on overt class 2 without passing class 1 so I do that as much as possible. I try to avoid intentional incidental kino in class 1 and 2 until I have established overt kino in those classes so I wont risk being creepy but always dominant. I checked out some video with Mehow and he is really good at doing lots of overt kino in class 1 and 2 from the very start of an interaction. But he does it in a club and I want to do it everywhere to everyone, all the time. Oh one thing more, I'm not afraid of kino, not even with strangers. I just need to learn to take the initiative and get it to become a habit. Now does anyone have anything helpfull to say? |
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| whats a movie movement opener? I see where you are going with the pickup thing. Well ya first and foremost my goal is to be more social and not just in pick but making friends, guys or chics, doesnt matter. Then to increase my confidence and so i can feel more self assured and become a cool guy. Then to become more interesting and start conversation with people, men or women anytime anywhere and then if it leads to sex or relationships cool. Well the thing with pick up is you can use most of its elements in business and work too as you mentioned so thats another good thing and it makes you more intelligent and attractive to other people since you are interesting, cool, interactive, social, friendly. Kino is something that comes with practice and especially overt kino although i doubt you can use all the elements of overt class 2 anywhere. In nightclubs, its the music and the whole atmosphere around that helps. You cant touch a chics belly and other stuff but with practice, it just comes naturally and makes it seem like a part of your personality which it really does. Anyways you are far more intellectual into all this stuff than i am. I am merely a newbie who doesnt even know all the terms so that is all i can say but i wish you all the best and let me know how it works out. Cheers |
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| Its the way it happens in romantic movies. As far as I get it its variations on the theme - Guy sees girl from a distance, runs up to her, and breathlessly stammering something like "I... saw.... you... from... across... the street... and you... where soooo cute... I had to come talk to you. [smile, big open eyes] Hi, I'm XXX." Typical day-game thing. Very romantic. |
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