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Old 04-22-2008, 04:55 AM
elmariachi elmariachi is offline
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Default bootcamp with brian in san diego

friday:
I had to go to meet brian at 3. got ready and took off.

I got there like an hour early, while i was waiting another student showed up he was kind of shy and sat away from me. i was a little hesitant then finally asked "hey do you know brian?" he said yeah and sat down next to me, he was from arizona. the next guy who came in was a guy from texas. brian came down and introduced himself to us. we all talked for a while.

he led us upstairs to his room and gave us the bootcamp manual. then went around the room and asked us what wed like to achieve from pickup, how we picture ourselves, our sticking points ect.. another guy showed up late, he was a tall guy i couldn't remember his name and i kept thinking to myself he looks like fbi agent or some shit. i told brian my sticking points were conversation and the way i picture myself is being able to walk into a club alone and just be able to talk to everyone. we then went into this eye contact drill, i was paired up with texan. the drill was simple, just look into your partners left eye for a few minutes.

the next drill was threading, were your partner makes a statement and you have to listen to key words in the statement and make your own statement, then he listens to key words in your statement.

so we ended up trading partners and i had to work with fbi tall man (don’t remember his name) we did an interesting drill called sunshower (i think) in which your partner thinks negative thoughts about you and your supposed to think supportive thoughts of him (like "its ok" "ill take care of you anyways") this part was fine but then after a few minutes brian instructed us to vocalize our negative thoughts.

the fbi tall guy dug into me deep, i was trying to maintain the its ok state of mind but found that my heart rate had increased and i wanted to fight the guy, i told brian that. he told me to just keep thinking in that frame. (ill take care of you frame) then it was my turn to dig into him.

we then went into a drill where your partner says something negative about you and you have to respond in a non witty normal tone.

we took a break.

when we came back we practiced approaching, we got into groups and one person approached the group while one person waited behind, brian would critique the approach.

then we did another approach drill were the "girls" shit test you and tease you, then we had to bust back.

then we did another drill in which the approaching guy was supposed to show interest in one particular girl and escalate on her.

end of drills part.

friday night:
we met at 11 and walked to this 3 story club.
we got in pretty quik, brian headed over to the bar and we followed. we were all sort of wondering what we had to do, i remember him telling me to go approach and he’ll come and find me. i was hesitant, he got his drink and told me to approach and i hesitated. we went upstairs to the top floor and stood around for a while. brian told us tonight all we had to do was open. he then gave me an opener "what is there to do around here thats fun" i opened my first set. the other guys opened sets as well. most the night i spent opening and hesitating, i felt kind of disappointed of myself at the end of the night cause ive done that "just open" thing before, maybe i just put too much pressure on myself. the night ended and we parted ways.

Saturday drills:
saturday we did some threading drills and question asking drills, one called digging for gold, where your partner throws out a statement or a word and you have to ask certain question then in the end of the questioning the person eventually reveals personality traits. (i thought this drill was great)

then a we drill in which you take the "gold" reward it and frame it in a we statement.

then we did kino drills, (the gayest thing in my life haha) we practiced all three levels of the ladder on each other. luckily we didn’t practice the ramp.

saturday night:
we were supposed to go to some bar by the beach names moon doggy, turns out it was shut down, we tried to get into another bar but they hassled brian about his I.D and didn't let him in. we ended up driving for a while, then finally found an after hours club, we stood there for a while then left to another one, they didn't let us in so we went back to the first one. right when they started to let people in a bunch of drunk guys and girls were let in, we just stood there. the night ended and we parted ways.

sunday drills:
sunday we started with some qualification stuff, where we describe some qualities we want in a girl and ask certain questions to see if she passes our expectations.

we drilled those, then we did a "we" drill where we dig for gold and say it in a "we" frame. then we talked about phone numbers and pulling. then we did some date drills, where we set up a date plan. finally we drilled another drill named the heartbreaker.
brian gave us some feed back at the end, he said i needed to smile more, start off small and gradually increase the number of people i talk to in a club, i seemed tired and nervous and i have a good sense of humor when i let it out. excellent advice.


overall observations:
-brian seemed tired, like he was really tired of traveling around, which i completely understand.

-the drills manual doesn’t have any actual drills in it.

-i thought the boot camp would shoot my game up but instead it sort of left me feeling like i needed to work on other things.

-i like all the conversational games we did i have a good idea of how to utilize them all and practice them in the field to get better, the drills are definitly a good learning tool.

-i wish we had gotten in the club on saturday, i wanted to use the kino exercises we learned. (brian said he’d take care of us)

-would i do it again? i don’t think i would. not because of the company more because of my own shortcomings.
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Old 04-22-2008, 07:15 AM
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It's like that at times. We fall short and we get discourage, I had an experience today where I felt the same. I had failed a test for a second time. I didn't like it... but like Tom Hanks says "The Hard is what makes it Great" and I can always take the Test again and this time be more prepared. I feel better about it, it's like a hump that I have to pass and I know I will feel good when I do.

Hang in there bud, you made an investment in yourself, keep it up and it will pay off.
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Old 04-22-2008, 01:27 PM
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Ah, give the guy a break.

But it was good that you actually tried to learn how to better yourself. A lot of men would not do it now.

I give you kudos for that.
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Old 04-22-2008, 07:44 PM
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What we did was some very intense skills based training, and its designed to give immediate results, and as well as that give you long-term benefits as well, although on a conscious level we may still feel insecure or negative about our skills, its not until we get back into the field that we realize how far we've come, and with our type of Drills based teaching it is likely that you will succeed in pickup way more than ever before, so please give it a go first! So I highly recommend letting us know how you perform in the field in the next 2 months and reporting back, you will more than likely surprise yourself.

It is very important in my opinion to keep a positive mental attitude, and to be easier on yourself. Many guys who are first learning the game before they get some major success can tend to be overly critical of themselves, be nonsupporting of themselves, and generally reinforce some negative beliefs about themselves initially when they challenge themselves, and its hard! We spoke about that during training, so I highly recommend attempting to keep a positive mental attitude and be kinder to yourself and allowing yourself plenty of room to make mistakes and have days when you don't feel amazing.

As far as the drill where you got riled up, that's not uncommon for students. Just because you had a natural reaction to negativity, doesn't mean you failed or are incapable of being calm in the face of testing. Again, cut yourself some slack – I thought you did fine, and you'll only get better. We simulating all the stuff that is quite normal to encounter in when cold approaching women and have you prepared and knowing full well how to deal with it.

Also, the other guys did really well,. These were normal, cool guys who came to learn, and they really went out of their comfort zone that first night. All of them credited the opening drills we did as the reason for their success. None of them had gone out and cold-approached before, and they had some pretty powerful realizations this past weekend about how easy it is to approach women.

Saturday night was an extremely bizarre series of events that has never happened before in all the time I have been teaching bootcamps, and due to us driving 20 minutes to Pacific Beach and having to drive back (because of their strange State ID policy) really decreased our in-field time. The other guys, especially the tall guy, should get credit for staying enthusiastic and helping me look for alternatives. I want to make the important point that we will make an extra special effort to extend to you an opportunity to make that few hours in in-field instruction up to you in the future.

Drills is not just about the weekend training, it also includes, as we spoke about, plenty of follow up contact, and I'm here to support you in your quest to have an abundance of women. We like to make Drills challenging for people at all skill levels, so that you are well equipped for all the situations you are likely to encounter in the real world.

You'll be fine bro. Take a few days off to let your mind cool off, and enjoy some increased success with women. Talk to you soon
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