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Old 10-08-2007, 12:40 AM
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I might have some knowledge of workshop methods to share. I used to work at a research institute where we did experimental studies in interactive learning methodologies. We did lots of experimental studies on learning efficiency in workshop methods and in roleplaying drill situations.

And as far as I can tell, the only company in the pick up business that use methods I know to be very efficient is Vin DiCarlo. I'm sure their methods could be improved even further, but no one else seems to do anything I would personally pay money for. That said I currently base this opinion on what the companies say about their methodologies and the reviews I've read, not any personal experience.

What I'm pretty sure of though is that the skills you develop during a role-playing drill session will stay with you, even if you don't train them further after the drill session.

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Old 11-21-2007, 02:21 AM
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Aight... So I fly to Chicago and I'm sitting in my room thinkin'... Do I really need this? Should I drop this bread??? I mean I am bangin' a 10 at the office and I've got a 9 texting me and she just wants bang again. So after some mental back and forth in my head... I say just do it you flew in from Jersey you may as well do what you set out to do.
(Cut... I should say I have been what some woudl call a natural in the past... some how 3 long relationships later I lost it. So, after no official training under my belt... the only thing that made sense was to learn to be a natural from a natural expert... right?)
Anyway, I walk in and Vin's chillin' in the back. There are a couple of dudes that turned out to be real kewl waiting to get started. I won't hit you with all the details. Just this:
Brian, led and Vin interjected a lot. Both are brilliant and shed so much light you'll be blinded by your improvement. And, I mean at any level. There were two cats there that read and were very well versed in many different "guru styles". But admittedly they'd tell you they needed a lot of help. Well they got it... On night three all of us went out and it was insane! Nobody went home without a number. Everyone was escalating with chicks... Everyone improved a ton... even my big headed ass. It's like it just sunk in. Hell there was a cat there that was over 45 and he was # closing cougars the last night before Vin and Brian showed up (we got there an hour early. What? We were excited and in pimp mode!).
So what'd it do for me. Let's just say, all the books, cd's, tapes, videos and conversations wouldn't have taken me this far. Is it a post high? Naw - it's all good. And trust me I've slept with a lot of women even before this... but now I get it... now I see what I was screwing up and what I was mistakenly doing right that was getting me laid in the first place.
Vin -- you are genious!
Brian -- you are amazing to watch and learn from.
Oh and the time that the four of us got from Vin and Brian was A LOT. It was like you had no choice... you're downloading all of this into your subconcious. PERIOD.
I'm ranting... just know this... Don't waste your time reading and all crap... in the end once you start drilling this stuff you don't need or use it anyway.
Peace,
Charles aka: Vision

Last edited by Vision : 11-21-2007 at 02:29 AM. Reason: typos
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