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Old 05-28-2007, 05:45 PM
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Default FR - DiClassified Drills Weekend - My Mind is Blown!

I am the anonymous guy that says this is the quickest way to master pickup without turning yourself into a Dancing Monkey! Vin's forum has a 10k character limit so here is Part I

Here's my FR of an incredible weekend:

FR Vin DiCarlo Boot Camp – Long Post

My mind is still blown here guys so I'm sure I’m going to miss some stuff –so I will follow up as more of this material takes and blossoms in my life - as one thing is definitely for certain - these drills and Vin's system WILL and already have started to blossom!

Vin's Material / Doctrine - I don't want to call it a method because it's really not a set of memorized canned stuff – it’s more of a state of mind and a proper way of moving with the rhythm of life and mating. It is clearly the FASTEST, most effective way of getting a girl into you and into your bed without resorting to canned material or becoming a dancing monkey.

Those who are familiar with my posts know that I have some serious inner game issues with approaching women in the field. In fact I've never gone out into the field with the expressed intent to sarge chicks, my few field successes have all been random strokes of luck, the moon was in the right spot, I had an NLP success once but it made me feel like a slime... or times when I just closed a major business deal and been so on and in "state" that women just threw themselves at me. Generally what AFC’s would refer to as “getting lucky”

Those who know me know that almost all of my game is all online – I’m kind of the master at luring chicks to my place from the internet – I have really bad AA and severe social anxiety and I went to this boot camp with the specific goal of being thrown in the deep end and really learning how to be social and talk to women in the field. I don’t want to be a pick up master – I just want to be able to talk to the girls I find attractive and give myself a choice of being in control of whether or not I can pull them and I have a fairly strong set of principles, and a busy life outside of the game, so I don’t want to dedicate my life to running routines and fooling chicks, I want to be able to convey how cool I am to women in a natural relaxed way.

As such – Vin’s Natural Game was really enticing for me.

So - let's start with Vin's doctrine – Natural Game - It's clear to me that Vin (and I'm sure those who REALLY know him would agree) has an incredibly analytical mind. Quite simply - He has broken down the barriers to entry into a woman's mind (and pussy) and created verbal structures and physical vibes which - if delivered confidently with your own personality will bypass her resistance, and cause her to get into you. This, coupled with proper kino escalation and good, well thought out transitions and logistics is the backbone of Vin's system.

It is truly no more complicated than that.

Especially relevant to me was the complete lack of canned material - in fact - most of the drills relied upon situations from our own lives or our own individual vibes to build stories around. There are a few places where having some canned material will help you out though it is not required - (for the record those examples where canned material helps out are so powerful ((virtual compliance, virtual escalation and roleplaying)) that they are truly mindblowing, and at some point as you really become a master, you could toss all the canned material out the window.) I am not at liberty to discuss the details of those scenarios but I can assure you that I can't wait to play them out!

So this is the essence of Vin's "Structured Natural Game" - you don't seek approval, you are already approved of within yourself, you don't need to demonstrate higher value - you ARE higher value, and you don't need to change who you are to the degree that your entire approach is a memorized sequence like other PUA systems - you need only be yourself, with a little confidence and some grammatical tuneup, and apply your personality in ways that will spark her to be into you.

The format of the bootcamp was great as well - it consisted of very little lecturing - Initially I was bummed about that – but once we started the drills I realized that this is where the rubber meets the road.

So - as such - the format of the bootcamp was mostly drills - each drill built upon the last one to instill an instinctual relaxation, positivity, if she says this, you say this, you bring the conversation back around to this, you move her over here, etc... a lot of “paint the fence, wax on, wax off” – this concept of drilling is new to me, so I will need to continue to practice them.

I can’t give specifics on the drills – but I can assure you that you WILL see them played out in the field, and if you practice them enough, you WILL make the right move when they do play out in the field. Saturday night’s sargefest at the White Horse was all the proof I needed.

First night out - we went to Underbar

For the record I was scared shitless - this was what I dreaded, after a year of being in the community and 3 years of studying other people's material I still never got the balls up to go out in the field and sarge chicks. Here was a group of guys throwing my ass in the pool.

And I have to be honest - I did not swim so well at first. We could blame the venue - it was very loud - but a few of the other guys dove right in and started bumping, talking, vibing. Meanwhile - I had an anxiety attack!

I have to credit Bob here, one of Vin's instructors - who talked me down from the ledge, and brought me back inside, to another section of the club where it wasn't as loud, I got into state and danced and opened a few sets. I was really hung up on what to say - and Vin got me back on track essentially by telling me to use my best AFC line and who gives a shit? So I opened some girls with my best AFC "Hey look at me I'm dancing like a white boy", only to find out they didn't speak a lick of english... social proof that it doesn't matter what you say, it's how you say it. Makes me wonder why I waited 3.5 years to find that out??

Opened another hot jappy looking girl in a dress who was dancing holding hands with a bunch of friends and told her this wasn't a bar mitzvah - she got a good laugh and we bumped and grinded for a bit.
Bumped and grinded a few others, and then we split.

Saturday I got a rare treat - Alf, Brian, Bob (Vin's Instructor Team) Vin and I went out for sushi - I missed Vin's pickup of a Korean Girl but when I got there he was breaking it down to the others about how he got her digis in front of her boyfriend.

After dinner we went to the mall for a bit to see what we could drum up - Vin had to twist my arm to get me to go but I'm glad he did. I was again - scared shitless - but excited about watching the guys in action. It's clear to me I've built this shit up to be so heavy, when it's clearly not. The mall was slim pickins but there was a cute little Asian girl sitting on a bench on her phone, so Vin quickly organized me n' Bob to be his "posse" and went over to talk to her. She was so embarrassed and kept smiling and nodding No she was cute but we couldn’t get her to play along - we ejected, but it was cool for me because I NEVER would have had the balls to do anything like that. And now I see it's so easy and who gives a shit how it comes out. Another run at some cute jappy girl in the jewelry store got us so many stares, they couldn’t believe how ballsy we were, and I wound up making funny faces at the cute girl with the jewelry – In retrospect I probably could have number closed her if I went back over to talk to her.

The key here was Vin’s crew demonstrating to me that this is fun, and there’s nothing heavy about it.

Saturday was the White Horse - much better vibe, easier to talk and hang - Brian blew my mind - within a second of walking in, he jumped right on a hot four set and was chatting them up. I'd watched these girls for awhile, as I got to the horse early. Again - my anxiety began to creep back up but God bless Vin - he took me around and began opening sets with me, it was really great to watch his vibe and play off him, and I began to realize I really am not so bad at this, I just really have to get out of my head...

I got caught up in my head for a bit during a four set, but I recovered and talked to one of the hotties with realllllly nice titties and discovered she was an Irish Brandeis grad, so I goofed on that by saying I didn't think they let Irish girls go to Brandeis, my Sister and Bro in law went to Brandeis and fell in love there blah blah. Some commonality from the drills earlier in the day... She told me she wanted to get into commercial real estate and gave me her whole plan for how she wanted to get in. This brought up the one major time in the night where the drills we'd worked on that day REALLY clicked - I thought - I've got commonality with her now compliment her on her plan and escalate - so I told her how I thought that was amazing that she had the whole plan all laid out together and that most people would be flailing around trying to figure out what to do when she was right on target, that's awesome! She got all flushed and smiley and "doggy dinner bowl" on me, so I kept going with "I'm going to make you my real estate advisor, and my bar branding advisor" blah blah. I couldn't keep it going so eventually I had to eject, but it was fuckin' cool – there was a solid concrete example of what to do when she tells you something about herself – that we had drilled on earlier that day that popped into my head automatically because of the drill. My mind was blown.
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Old 05-28-2007, 05:52 PM
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Couple more sets - Brian pointed out to me that I was kinda being a dick to a blonde girl - I have some work to do with universal love and relentless positivity. But he was totally right. In thinking about it now, I missed an opportunity for another drill reaction that we had covered earlier in the day.

We got ready to bounce and I was getting really major AI from a cute kinda artsy looking girl but was too much of a wus to hold up the train to go talk to her. I will get better at that.

Lotta baseball openers at the kells - I got rejected left and right as I really never was able to get back into state - but it was fuckin' awesome to be rejected and know why and above all NOT CARE.

Last stop was Our House – Vin gave me some solid advice on the way over about being in flow and not thinking too much, and I really feel like the drills will help me get out of my head.

I ran into one of my boys at our house and hung with him and a couple of his girl friends - I was out of state - I got major AI from the cutest girl in the place (in my mind) and just could not summon up the gumption to go talk to her. See, none of the chicks I spoke to all night I could give a flying shit about - sure there were some I'd tag, but none of them were really "my type". This chick was completely my type and I could not get my nuts together. Thanks to Bob who eventually pushed me into it - but by the time I finally got my balls together, she was gone.

BIG LESSON LEARNED.

I winged another one of the guys who was doing fantastically in a 3 set and his target was ready to go home with him, he just didn’t close. I told her friend that she was going to take him home that night and she told me she knew, both of this girl’s friends were ready to let my man in. Funny stuff – I told his target’s friend that since he was from India he was schooled as a Tantric Love Master – I hope she could handle him, we got a good laugh, further proof that she was not going to cock block him.

Good night out – lots of dog paddling in the pool, but I will be swimming soon!

Long and short of it, I left the seminar feeling for the first time like I could really make this work. I’ll be posting updates on my own personal progress through practicing the drills and adopting a more social behavior patterns in life.

For those of you who are on the fence about how credible Vin’s stuff is, or whether to take the leap and spend the money I say DO IT - Vin’s stuff really is the quickest, most effective way to get chicks into YOU, without turning yourself into a dancing monkey!
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Old 06-02-2007, 05:23 PM
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Hey Dan,

thanks for the kind words...really YOU did all the work, so take credit - same with that blonde chick - own it. Full responsibility for your errors and your growth.

BUT at the same time, cut yourself some slack

one thing I noticed about you - you are very hard on yourself. You have this idea that you have a lot to do. I see it because I used to feel that way - there's this underlying feeling that you need a lot of knowledge and skill to be good or worthy.

When we debriefed you said that you realized how far you had to go. That's simply not true. You think that you have to do more than you really do.

Here's my honest impression of you:

You are spiritual, intelligent, masculine, sexual, and open minded. You said that you like earthy, open minded, intelligent women. What kind of man do you think those women want? here's a hint - it rhymes with DAN! You already are the kind of guy your "type" is attracted to.

Your only real challenges are approach anxiety, and a feeling of not being good enough for the women you want. I'm telling you that you ARE.

My suggestions:

Stop performing and trying to get a good reaction. Be that playful, easy going, intelligent guy you really are, and just share that with women from the get-go. You will notice girls being more receptive, and then it's your move to just pick who you want. Start talking to your type. After a few times, you'll realize that your type is probably gonna like you back. I've internalized this myself, but it took some time.

secondly, handle the approach anxiety by getting out there and talking to strangers. Do that and you will be ahead of 99 percent of guys out there. Remember, you are learning to do something very different and powerful that NO other guys do. Don't be so hard on yourself. You have set high aspirations for yourself and you should be very proud of that.

Email me if you want to talk about this stuff on a deeper, more personal level.

Take care!

Brian
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