Innovation Without Mental Masturbation: A Review of DiClassified Drills

[the_dicknotist]

I never thought I would be writing a review of my experience at a seduction boot camp. The idea of paying thousands of dollars to hear a bunch of guys lecture brings back way too many memories of listening to some old guy with coke bottle glasses chat monotonously about theorems. While at first it was fun to listen to the old gurus spit game over audio programs and DVDs that often spanned a staggering 10 hours or more, I only became an uncalibrated, dancing monkey who memorized routines and analyzed Sperm Wars. All I wanted to do was fuck hotties on a regular basis and eventually settle down with a great girlfriend.

So, with no hot female instructors to hold my attention, why did I invest in DiClassified Drills? I have long been familiar with Vin DiCarlo’s ideas when he posted about Natural Game under the pseudonym of “Woodhaven.” While I painfully memorized silly openers that made interacting with women a miserable experience, I read his “Transition to Natural Game,” which presented a whole new way of thinking about pickup. I realized that the very act of DHVing and using canned material was supplication in of itself and while I thought I was hiding my insecurities through my material, I was actually amplifying and reinforcing them. I rethought my entire approach to pickup and cleared up my inner game through The Authentic Man Program. When I learned that Vin finally started coming out with some products, I took some pointers from his Dating Diablo program and pulled a girl from open to close in two hours, my record thus far. Not only did I perform my first rapid, same day pull, but I closed her in a graveyard and had her begging me to double fist her. How's that for compliance?! After that wild night, I figure, “Ok, this guy knows what he’s talking about!” So, I signed up for his boot camp, DiClassified Drills, where pickup isn’t something you're taught; it’s an experience!

What separates DiClassified Drills from its competitors is the very concept of breaking pickup down into various components or drills and practicing those them until you get them down perfect. Some of topics covered over 15 drillset sequences include opening and hooking quickly, maintaining and steering conversation, building credibility, preventing flakes, developing tight phone and text game, building sexual tension, and escalating rapidly and powerfully. There is minimal theory or lecturing. Rather, the focus is on developing and trusting your own intuition, which is crucial in conveying your attractive qualities naturally.

One concern I had going into the boot camp was whether the other instructors could deliver like Vin. There’s always that fear that perhaps Vin is the one who can really pull and the others are posers who are not much better than the students. Going in, I could tell from Vin’s products and his mASF posts that he probably has good game, but what about the other instructors, Alf and Brian? First of all, who are these guys? They have no e-books, no products, no mASF posts, or even a blog. I can’t go to the Better Business Bureau to confirm that they have some sort of pickup license. All I had was Vin’s assurance on the site that they too have solid game. Well, let me assure you, these two are the real deal.

When I first met Brian, I was immediately impressed because I could sense that he has a strong inner core confidence. Alf gave off a different vibe: warm, fun, and welcoming, almost like an Asian P. Diddy, though I didn’t see him dance. My intuition was proven correct when we went out and saw Brian immediately open and hook the hottest girls in the bar right after the bouncer let us in. He then waved me into the set where I got a bird’s eye view of the beauty of saline implants. As for Alf, I recall seeing him work this hottie in the club and she was totally enthralled, having a great time, and loving his presence. Again, he didn’t dance, but you don’t need to when you have solid game. More impressive than their pickup skills was their devotion to our learning. We actually went over in the boot camp because we had to repeat some of the drills until we all got them done right. They refused to accept anything less. With five students and three instructors, including Bob, the webmaster who also helped in some drills, I got one-on-one and often two-on-one instruction and feedback the entire week-end.

Another aspect of the boot camp I enjoyed was how Vin answered all of my questions concerning relationship management. So much of the resources of the community focuses on the approach and Day2s that there is a dearth of information on how to hold onto a girl after you sleep with her. Where are the products on managing LTRs or mLTRs? All the instructors offered very little theory and lots of practical, personalized advice.

So, I’ve discussed the drills generally. Personally, my experience at the boot camp is similar to that of “Daniel-san” in that old classic, “The Karate Kid.” If you recall, the main character, Daniel, is learning karate from Mr. Miyagi who seemingly takes advantage of him by having him performing menial labor around his house, such as painting the fence or waxing the car. Daniel learns later on that Miyagi has been teaching him all along when he naturally uses the movements he learned while performing the chores to fend off Miyagi’s punches and kicks. Like Daniel, I was skeptical at first as I found myself performing concepts I haven’t done before. Yet I pushed myself to get as much as I could out of the week-end and give it a chance as there’s always an awkward period when you’re learning something new. Later on when we went out to some popular bars and clubs, I found myself applying the concepts spontaneously with my own natural spin on it. Among the highlights:

-As I was walking over from one bar to the next, I ran into this girl who I opened and hooked immediately using role playing, one of the topics we drilled. As we strolled together arm-in-arm, we made it to the other bar when I picked her up, carried her into the bar, and playfully spun her around for all to see – and she loved every moment of it.
-I opened one set with a super hot brunette. Her friend tells me it’s her birthday and of course, I hugged her and wished her a happy birthday. She then proceeded to tell me about how she recently caught her husband cheating and that she learned her son was being sexual abused in school (Hey, I said she was hot, not stable). I immediately and naturally steered the conversation away from the negativity and had her laughing, smiling, and hugging me. She saw me as the solution to her problem and I amplified her attraction without offering advice or making the mistake of most guys and becoming her emotional tampon to dump on. Of course I got her number. If she’s that nuts in a bar, she must nuts in the sack...
-I lock eyes with another cute brunette who’s dressed up as if she’s an extra from Pirates of the Caribbean 3. She has three UGs with her and one hairy, dude. I opened her with my eye contact alone, which is actually the very first drill at the boot camp. I’m easily in with everyone but eject when they start trying to convince me to let them paint side burns on my face! I did steer the conversation away, but I figure it’s time to move on and get some non-arty chicks.
-This last interaction actually happened after the boot camp. I went to a bar with my usual wing who was showing off a new shirt his daughter picked out for him. I was demonstrating some of the moves I did on my sets during the boot camp when we spot two cute blondes eyeing us from across the bar. Actually, they were more than eyeing us; they were clapping in appreciation. My buddy and I enjoyed the moment and playfully took a bow when again, the Miyagi syndrome kicked in. One of the other drills we learned was how to reward a girl with kino when she gives you an IOI.

Of course, I have been in the community for a while. I have opened and hooked sets countless times, but I am now doing so more powerfully, quickly, and consistently. Like the girl I closed in the graveyard, I have had sex before, but never this quickly and powerfully. I dropped her a month ago and she still contacts me! The key difference is this boot camp makes my game more powerful, adaptable, and consistent. I am not a master pickup artist yet, but with the DiCarlo DiClassified booklet, which includes a detailed explanation of each drill, I now have all the tools I need to practice and reach my goals.

What fundamentally makes DiClassified Drills unique is best summed up with a conversation I had with one of my good friends this morning. I gave him a detailed, verbal field report of all my great interactions over the week-end and he asked, “You sure the fact that they were drinking didn’t have more to do with it?”

I responded, “That’s ridiculous! Sure, people were drinking, but if alcohol was the main factor, than any guy should be able to waltz into any bar or club and take any chick they want home. Yet, the very existence of the community proves that that’s just not true. I didn’t say the same lines or do the same things. Not all the girls were drinking in every instance. The common denominator is all the interactions was me!” That’s the difference that makes this boot camp unique and innovative. When you recite stuff you read off the net or do something you see in a DVD, you think you attract women by what you do. When you invest in DiClassified Drills, you learn how to attract women by who you are.

[spark]

I felt like i read this review before, cept it was under a different user name, and in the field reports section, i just had a look they are quite similar, it's kinda puzzling that they both make references to karate kid, what's goin on?

[Vin DiCarlo]

LOL - the only similarity is that they both mention the Karate Kid - which is simply because of the subconcious training effect of the drills a la "Wax On Wax Off".....

Let's be honest - did you really read them?

Vin

[the_dicknotist]

FunkFish and I were both participants in the same bootcamp But the similarities end there.

[babyfaceseducer]

I did see these reviews in the Mystery Method forums,these guys on here might have different names on that site.It probably where you saw them.

[Funkfish]

Hey Guys, yeah me and the dicknotist did the bootcamp together, I also post under the name "ringshifter" on the MM board where I also posted the review (only fair that people get to know about vins great work)

as for the karate kid reference. that REALLY is the best way I could describe how it felt, even at times I was like "why am I doing this" just like the karate kid felt.

the best example, that I don't think I put in my review was day 1 we we're drilling acknowledge and redirect. Basically if a girl fires a test at you like "buy me a drink" the drill programs to you acknowledge but then keep going, showing that your a dominate male with an unshakeable frame.

at the end of the night of infield day 1 I was...sloppy fish (I acquired a taste for cranberry and vodka by the end of the night)

when I came home I *stumbled* back out to the local connivence store, and I saw some ice cream and I was like "yeah that's what I want" so I go to pick some up but the fridge was off so it was all melted, in which I drunkenly grunted "the ice creams melted" then two girls walked by and I used my ridiculously smooth opener on them......"the ice creams melted"

The came over and looked at it too, while they we're there I was throwing some slurred words at one of the girls, telling me how she graduated from BU.

then her friend said "yeah we're done talking to you" in which I INSTINCTIVELY responded with "that's great" then immediately to the friend "so how'd you like BU" acknowledge and redirect. The funny thing is after I did this I was shocked (and so we're the girls) and it kinda threw us all off.

the same thing happened earlier in the night too. this I did put in my review but I'll put the cliff notes version here.

basically, I approached a girl, said "blah blah blah blah" which she responded with "yeah I have a BF he's in the bathroom" which I said "that's great blah blah blah blah" not letting it phase me. Which turned out that she DIDN'T have a BF, just some chumpy guy following her around haha.

What I'm saying is that I think ALL of the reviews for the drills bootcamp will prolly mention or feel like this analogy to some extent, because your drilling these things which just sneak out of you naturally, its some crazy stuff when it finally happens.

[Scribe]

These drills sound great, but I'm wondering how they work when the instructors drill you. Is it kind of like a conversation game where you roleplay and certain attitudes and lines are drilled into you?

I'll probably be taking one towards the end of august, but I'll like to know as much as I could. Thanks alot for writing guys.

JC

[Brian]

What can I say - you did the damn thing...

You already have so much base-level confidence and belief in yourself. I think that's why it was so easy for you to make the huge leaps you did. I was really proud. Stay in touch

Brian

[the_dicknotist]

These drills sound great, but I'm wondering how they work when the instructors drill you. Is it kind of like a conversation game where you roleplay and certain attitudes and lines are drilled into you?

Scribe,

The drills get you used to the feeling of knowing when to do something to push the interaction along. For example, there's one drill where you practice mini-islolating a girl from her group of peers. There actually aren't any words to memorize; you perform a specific action to do it. After you drill it a few times, when you're in set and completely in the moment, you will start to sense when it's time to mini-isolate and you will do so naturally. Very often, it's not till long after the interaction when I'm reminicing and I realize, "oh yeah! We did drill that!" The drills sensitize you to those subtle moments most guys miss.

Brian,

It was a pleasure learning from you last weekend. We'll definitely keep in touch.

-G

[Woz]

Hey guys,
I just signed up for the second London Bootcamp and was just wondering what a rough timetable for the weekend would be like.

[Endless]

Originally Posted by the_dicknotist

but I closed her in a graveyard and had her begging me to double fist her. How's that for compliance?! who you are.

That's fucking hilarious.

I'm picturing a skeleton banging on its coffin and plugging where its ears used to be.