the chicago bootcamp

[demerzel]

Attended the drills bootcamp last weekend.

The meat and potatoes of it. For me, this was like a training interaction and a consulting trip all rolled into one. If your sort of geek like me, then I highly recommend it. Brian and Vin are awesome instructors, Brian is very alpha, and Vin really has a vibe and reality that is all his own, hard to explain unless you meet in person.

I think you really have to approach this bootcamp with unabashed honesty to get the most out of it, and yet, the drills troubleshoot what your doing wrong. In my case, it really takes a higher concious(in my case Vin and Brian) to achieve a higher concious(got this off some David D program, invaluable nevertheless).

2- biggest sticking points. Body language at times, and tech speak based conversation, instead of what really relates to chicks(emotions). I need to work on my emotional intelligence, but I think that this will come with time practice and trial by fire(in the field).That was one thing that really impressed me about brian, very alpha guy, but yet, could express himself very well in the emotional speak with POISE. Another big thing that I learned was to talk to a girl like you are talking to another buddy and not get into dancing monkey routines. For me, I really wanted to understand my blindspots during this consultation and I feel like these guys really helped with that. When I approach girls, it feels much warmer to me now as I am not so far inside my head. Warm dominance(as taught by Vin) is really a key factor. The drills sort of hit the delete key on not approaching what you find attractive, the key factor for me is using the punchy question as vin teaches.

Putting the rubber to the road: Was in chicago on monday, and did lots of approaches with no hesitation. I am mostly trying to get into building tension, and yet do things with warm dominance(I credit brian for helping me with this, Brian is an excellent instructor btw, b/c he does not sugar coat feedback, which is what you really need, otherwise, money for this is a WASTE of your time). It is interesting that things do actually come to the surface after having gone over them again and again, the other great benefit to this consultation aside from understanding personal SP.

Did approaches in the art museum with mostly asian girls, and good to play off of since I am an artsy looking kind of guy. The two cutest was this Japanese girl(I am guessing here), that I spotted getting off the bus, I spotted her hot ass and a fanny pack that she was wearing which I commented on, this was at a street crossing, got her smiling, I am not sure why I did not pursue this one further. The other was in millenium park, alternative looking chick from Boston, opened while looking at the map, and ended up with her e-mail, I think this one could have gone further, but I had to catch my plane. Mostly tried to convey mystery and intrigue with this one.

One thing that was interesting at the bootcamp, is that Vin himself would claim not to be an interesting guy and yet he would communicate being an interesting guy, and I think alot of it lies in the punchy question and not saying too much or open loops as well, things that I want to work on in my interactions.

In summary, and as an objectivist/atheist/scientific sort of guy(so you understand my p.o.v. to make you own), for outer game, the program is freakin awesome, Brian is also awesome(in other words, don't just wait for one that vin is teaching, however, bonus if they are both teaching).

Anywho, bit long of a post.

-Jeff

[Brian]

Hey Jeff!

Thanks for the kind words...

Sounds like you're doing things automatically instead of overthinking, which is the whole point. I loved working with you, and have I have a couple points of personal feedback for you if you'd like to email me.

As far as your approaches, you recognized that you COULD'VE taken them further, which most guys aren't aware of, so you have the edge. Now take action. As far as what to convey with women, drop the seriousness and overanalysis, and just shoot the shit like we were doing at the greek restaurant. It wasn't until we got to chill and you let your guard down that I got to see what a cool, interesting guy you really are. Until that point, I had no idea, and I think it was because you hide behind an analytical/'smart' persona. If you can show that to women, you'll be in great shape.

Don't worry about conveying intrigue or mystery. It will come out naturally. Those are things you already have, and all you can really do is fuck them up.
Do the drills at your leisure (about once a week, 10-20 minutes, rotate which ones you do). But once in the field, drop all theory and technique and just focus on meeting women without ANY persona, and staying in a very relaxed, playful state. That's how it's gonna happen for you brother.

Take care.

Brian